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[To sum up:]

Whilst doing testing of TThrottle v7, I noticed that using | Show | TThrottle | was reporting that some machines were being reported as running no tasks. Investigating this, I realised that some machines were still running TThrottle beta 7.0.0.1.

Updating TThrottle to beta 7.0.0.2 has fixed the problem and running tasks are again being correctly reported.

To sum up: To enable BoincTasks to function fully with TTThrottle, you MUST be running the latest beta

Confirmed, although I have to qualify it by saying that downgrading v7 requires the use of Control Panel which does the job cleanly.

I have been thinking more about the Vista x64 problem. Would it be possible to install and run it as a 32-bit program? If so, this could be the solution for Vista x64 users being left behind

I forgot to add you to the tester in the about box, will be there the next time around.

COOL 

I got it working on: Vista 32, Win 7 32/64 I will test the uninstaller.

A hint you probably MUST remove the driver *.sys from C:\Program Files\eFMer\TThrottle.

A quick and dirty way to install an older version: Remove everything from C:\Program Files\eFMer\TThrottle except the xml file.
Next install the older version.

Yes that is what I have to do too. We are definitely thinking along the same lines. I can confirm that v7 runs on XP and was also thinking about unistalling it and going back to 6.5 just to see if is done cleanly without the need to lift the hood and get my hands dirty

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Yep. My guess it's a bug in Vista 64.

I have been doing the latest tests on this one Vista64 machine, so I will do some tests on another Vista x86 rig.
If that gives the same result, then we'll have to wonder how Idahofisherman was able to report that v7 on Vista worked for him

But the problem is resolved by using the older 2.4 driver.
2.5 only has one item for W7 and up, for better core detection.

One thing I have discovered by chance is that it is not as easy as it was with earlier versions to downgrade from v7 to v6.
This machine is presently running v6.50 but is being shown as being v7 with the 'wrong/no drivers' report.
When uninstalling v7 and then installing v6.50, the install reports that the lang files are missing (but <v 7 didn't need them). If I copy the lang folder from a v7 machine to the Vista machine, TThrottle reports that the wrong version of drivers are installed and suggests to use InstalDriver to fix the problem. The problem is that if I try this, I get the report that the INF files are missing

Uninstalling v7 requires more than simply using Control Panel but would normally not be noticed if upgrading from v7.00 to a later version.

This is probably the best test version on this side.

This probably means that 2.4 is the last < W7 driver.

That's a pity if this turns out to be true. I just can't work out how XP and Win7 works and yet Vista doesn't.

Off to test the Vistax86 machine...

OK. TThrottle stopped and the inf and sys files removed as per your instructions. TThrottle 7.0.0.2 reinstalled as Administrator. Temps still not being captured with the following log:

29 June 2013 - 07:09:40 Driver not loaded (yet?), retry in 10 seconds
29 June 2013 - 07:09:50 Driver not loaded (yet?), retry in 10 seconds. (2)
29 June 2013 - 07:10:00 OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)
OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)
OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)

Have you been able to replicate this?

I have uploaded the three files to my skydrive but the fact that there are 3 'corrupted' files seems sinister to me.

To clarify:
My previous post related to a Vista system with v7.0.0.2 installed but not working.
On the other Vista system with attempted install and then subsequently 6.5 installed, the 3 .ev(x) files exist but there are also the two files you asked about (but from the subsequent install of 6.5)

[Cannot find "cputemperature"]

You can help by looking here: C:\Windows\inf

Search for cputemperature in:

setupapi.app.log
and
setupapi.dev.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.log the xxxxx are a number.

setupapi.app.log: Cannot find "cputemperature"
there is no setupapi.dev.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.log file, but there are 3 setupapi.ev files

setupapi.ev1, setupapi.ev2 and setupapi.ev3 apart from having incomplete names all appear to be corrupted when compared to the same file on a working Win7 system.

Would you like to see them anyway?

I see your reply to my unedited version. I was in the midst of correcting typos, so I hope it is clearer now.

I will setup a test machine with Vista 64 bit, to see if this a reproducible problem

I look forward to your findings. To save time, the offer of remotely running one of my Vista boxes still stands.

[REQUEST:]

I corrected the installer version.
Download it again to be absolutely sure you got version 2.

v7.0.0.1 for comparison with the 7.0.0.2 versions:
CRC32: CF511F19
MD5: E03D9B466B355D516F5E0C2F9470D393
SHA-1: 6519166C22BCBA42B6B1B640BE64471F28878951

v7.0.0.2 downloaded previously:
CRC32: 86FE7714
MD5: DF2DEA9F77748910297B617DA4647CD6
SHA-1: A58D2F732CCDD47E5B5F5E1882C3CB119231284D

v7.0.0.2 downloaded from Europe server:
CRC32: DDAFE44F
MD5: 843EE7DE0B7D2223D5A9A337CBB3000A
SHA-1: 6285B590FF09F3AC0C1C94F85361F13576517259

v7.0.0.2 downloaded from America server:
CRC32: DDAFE44F
MD5: 843EE7DE0B7D2223D5A9A337CBB3000A
SHA-1: 6285B590FF09F3AC0C1C94F85361F13576517259

file hashes created with hashtab

The 7.0.0.2 version I had downloaded previously appears to be different to the ones I now have, but comparing it with 7.0.0.1, it would appear that you have indeed uploaded a new version with the same name!
REQUEST: It might be a useful addition to include a file hash on the download page 

Now for the bad news, I have tried installing 7.0.0.2 over 7.0.0.1 (and over 6.5.0) and also have done a complete uninstall before reinstalling 7.0.02. No matter whatever method I have used, I still can't get 7.0.0.2 to perform. The log always says that driver is not properly installed. ⁽¹⁾

I have also tried your earlier suggestion of using InstallDriver64.exe to uninstall and reinstall driver but the reinstall process always reports that a required INF file is missing.

Mixed good and bad news:Over the past few days, I have been building two new systems (one Vistax64 sp2 and one Win7x64 sp1).  Both systems are fully up to date with all Microsoft recommended updates and are running Norton Internet Security 2013 (fully updated). I have also deployed an XP machine (with all updates made). The Win7 and XP machines both work with 7.0.0.2, however this new Vista machine does not.

It's strange that idahofisherman reports that 7.0.0.2 works on Vista whilst neither of my Vista systems can get it to report core temps whilst they are happy running v6.5.

⁽¹⁾ Vista machine running TThrottle 7.0.0.2:

27 June 2013 - 16:03:11 Driver not loaded (yet?), retry in 10 seconds
27 June 2013 - 16:03:21 Driver not loaded (yet?), retry in 10 seconds. (2)
27 June 2013 - 16:03:31 OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)
OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)
OpenService failed!  Error = 1060 (start driver)
Unable to start driver. (is the driver installed?)
27 June 2013 - 16:03:31 (L01) ERROR: Driver NOT installed properly27 June 2013 - 16:03:31 Program version: 7.00,64Bit
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002), 64-bit
Language: User: 2057 (ENG), System: 2057 (ENG), Selected: 0 () Used: 1033 (ENU)
Amd/Ati: found 1 devices
Amd/Ati: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series Present (Pos: 0, Valid adapter: 0)
27 June 2013 - 16:03:31 AdapterInfo: Pos: 0, Valid adapter: 0, Index: 0, AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 40

Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
Vendor ID: INTEL
HighestIntegerValue: 0000000B - Processor Signature: 000206C2
Misc. info: 02200800
Feature Flags1 029AE3BF
Feature Flags2 BFEBFBFF

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         970  @ 3.20GHz               
Processor: Family: 6h, Model: 2C, Stepping: 2

TJunction using: 100  °C


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27 June 2013 - 16:03:42 Number of matching Programs (Processes): 12
CPU: wcgrid_faah_7.15_windows_x86_64, PID: 20576, Threads: 3
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Vista machine running TThrottle 7.0.0.2:

Good job on the second update.

I have been busy over weekend and have only just tried the new version. For some strange reason, I still can't get it to work on a Vista machine. I'll try again when I have more free time.

I have noticed a few minor points whilst testing the install:

typo. Installer says

This will install TThrottle (32/64 Bit): Temperature Throttle by eFMer V 7.0.0.1 on your computer

should be V 7.0.0.2

also shows as 7.0.0.1 | in Control Panel | Programs |

In Remove Driver dialog, msg reads

Driver removed! (If you see any errors the driver way already removed or not running)

'way' should be 'was'

'Install Driver' dialog still reports that driver cannot be installed because INF file is missing

Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate Edition Service Pack 2 (build 6002), 64-bit
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Installer 64 Bit V1.40
StartService failure! Error = 127 (start driver)
Unable to install driver. (is the .inf file present?)
ControlService failed!  Error = 1062
ERROR: Driver not installed properly. (LoadDriver Dlg)

I think you are right, Fred. I think it most likely that (the lack of) UDMF is the elephant in the room.

The offer of a remote Vista machine still stands if you wish to do any pre-beta testing.

Most of the testing is done with Win 7 64 and a final check with Win 7 32.

Fred, if you're interested, I could make one of my Vista machines available to you using Team Viewer

FYI, I've tried another Vista machine and get the same problem.

OK, Windows Update has nothing for me apart from Skype which I don't want to update. 

I have flicked through the update history and can't seem to find UMDF. However, this link is showing the latest version as 1.11 and refers to KB Articles:KB2685813.
User-Mode Driver Framework version 1.11 update for Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows Server 2008 R2 is confusing me though. The title suggests it is available for Vista and gives info on how to check it has been installed. The download link, however, goes to a page for Win 7 and Win Server 2008 R2.

Is UMDF required for earlier versions of TThrottle? If not, this might explain why v6 works and v7 doesn't. 

Did you restart your system?

Yes. I'll have more time later and will try again on another machine and let you know if there's any difference.
I'm clutching at straws, but your instructions mention the x86 installer. I wonder if you have tried the 64-bit version or even if that would make any difference to the outcome?