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Could it be somehow caused by the problem with collapsible client notices, which URL's index (like in file:///C:/Users/UserName/AppData/Roaming/eFMer/BoincTasks/html/__collapse__497) gets auto-incremented (in my case by +3) again and again?

I've mistyped it: "the problem with uncollapsible client notices".

Sure, it detects new messages.
Maybe it has something to do with the language setting.
Do you use the English version? If not try switching to English.
New notices are checked against a check sum of the text. So maybe some special characters are messing things up.

I'm using Slovak translation. I'll keep it for a while and try to sample the different notice.html files like this. Then switch to English maybe tomorrow.

What notices are added and again?

Just looking at the file (time-stamp 21.11.11 18:03). The most recent two notices were "19.11.11 21:41  PrimeGrid: World Record Generalized Fermat Prime" and "21.11.11 18:03  Oznam od TThrottle, Táto verzia: 5.44, Nájdená nová beta verzia: 5.50." (I've already installed the 5.50 more than two hours ago (around 16:08), the Computers tab is aware of it, but never mind.) BT just displays "6 Notices" - note it is quite possibly divisible by my 3 "usually uncollapsible notices".

One more idea - I'm using own template for notices, which off course might also be flawed.

One hour later, now "9 Notices". I'm also adding the notices.xml, I guess it will shed more light into the problem. (Then opened the Notices tab pane. And added one more set of files. and once more opened the tab and one more set of files.) Because a set of 3 empty notices is always being added to the XML files, what is possibly also causing my auto-incrementation:

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<notice>
<added_time>1321891434.000000</added_time>
<project></project>
<title></title>
<checksum>5377</checksum>
<collapsed>0</collapsed>
<deleted>0</deleted>
</notice>
<notice>
<added_time>1321891434.000000</added_time>
<project></project>
<title></title>
<checksum>5175</checksum>
<collapsed>0</collapsed>
<deleted>0</deleted>
</notice>
<notice>
<added_time>1321891434.000000</added_time>
<project></project>
<title></title>
<checksum>5475</checksum>
<collapsed>0</collapsed>
<deleted>0</deleted>
</notice>
<notice>
<added_time>1321898634.000000</added_time>


I've then restarted BT - a lot of entries in notices.xml disapeared.

Could you mail me a notices.html file.

(Sending files per e-mail.)

I've opened BT's window, for the second time today. The Notices tab informs about "210 Notices", now (a few minutes later) 213. BOINC Manager shows just some 18 notices.

After opening the tab pane, there are just 10 opened and 3 collapsed notices. Just two of them were added over the weekend, since I've seen them the last time.

Could it be somehow caused by the problem with collapsible client notices, which URL's index (like in file:///C:/Users/UserName/AppData/Roaming/eFMer/BoincTasks/html/__collapse__497) gets auto-incremented (in my case by +3) again and again?

Yes or even 12 hours.

And 0, 6, user adjustable.

I'd advice just "user adjustable", per rule, as the secure/over time may greatly differ per project.

Preferences tab:
"Use these temperatures" is using wrong translation ("Ak počítač nie je používaný") instead of "Použiť tieto teploty"

I didn't translate it.

Who knows?

Initially the "Ak počítač nie je používaný" translation was displayed twice, in 5.44.
It gets funny now (sorry for my amusement)
"If the computer is not used for" and "Use these temperatures" lines got the other one's translations, switched, in 5.45.

"Ak počítač nie je používaný" should be the upper line with time+countdown,
"Použiť tieto teploty" is the lower line with temperatures.

I've just noticed this in the Logging tab:

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[...]
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18 November 2011 - 15:06:55  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 0
18 November 2011 - 21:33:26  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
GPU:1 0 PID:13176 (5) Slot:3 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ 17jl11ab.13407.18472.14.10.117
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18 November 2011 - 21:40:40  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 0
18 November 2011 - 21:52:49  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
GPU:1 0 PID:476 (3) Slot:3 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ 28mr11aa.25384.13564.14.10.60
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
18 November 2011 - 22:23:30 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:23:45 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:24:01 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:24:17 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:24:32 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
[... ~110 more occurences ...]
18 November 2011 - 22:56:00 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:56:16 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:56:32 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:57:17 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:58:24 MakePidList Error: 4,c8,0
18 November 2011 - 22:59:25  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 0
19 November 2011 - 11:02:17  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 2
GPU:1 0 PID:13992 (5) Slot:3 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ 28mr11aa.25384.13564.14.10.60
CPU:1 (50%) - PID:8376 (3) Slot:5 http://www.primegrid.com/ LLR_SGS_109717801
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:14220 (1) Child: primegrid_cllr.exe
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
19 November 2011 - 11:03:32  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
XXX: 0 (0%) - PID:8376 (3) Slot:5 http://www.primegrid.com/ LLR_SGS_109717801
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:14220 (1) Child: primegrid_cllr.exe
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[...]
I do not remember anything extraordinary from that time (yesterday evening) - maybe just that the notebook was operating on battery, at the evening. But quite possibly also not at the times.

I've seen the collapse problem once, but when you restart BT it should go away, I'm not sure why this happens, have to check.

In my case it persists. On the other machine, three notices related to both remote_hosts.cfg and cc_config.xml. In BT 1.24 a few minutes ago they were closing just fine. I've also noticed that the trailing numbers in URLs are being updated all three at once (like 144+145+143 -> 147+148+146), regardless of which [-] is being clicked on.

With the same BT instance, I've updated BOINC 6.12.34 -> 6.12.41 - I can suddenly close these three notices. Perhaps their format changed slightly in between and BT 1.25 does not support the older format correctly? (A wild guess.)

Still persists in BT 1.27 (connected to 6.12.41) - I can not collapse just these notices and the indices in their URLs also keep updating.
I'll check again in an hour or later.

No, BT was not closing but kept running. BOINC client was closed.

There is closing and closing.
This one is closing all threads and restarts them, without restarting the whole program. Shows closing...

Ah, OK. I should've read "When BT is closing [its connections and threads] ..."
The interesting point was that switching through menus worked just fine.

I do always File -> Exit BT prior to logout or reboot (except when occasionally the system will crash or hang, once in a blue moon or a half year, what comes sooner ).

The last two check restarts, the first row were (left-bound) Graphs+Views bars, second row was Allow bar to the left and Operation bar just below View's History+Notices "buttons". Exactly the same placement, although I've always placed all four toolbars in one row.

Switching between tabs issue:

When BT is closing, it doesn't allow any tab switching.

No, BT was not closing but kept running. BOINC client was closed.

Me too. After starting BT. After a restore, all is fine.

I have (from left to right) Graphs bar, Views bar and the third was Operation bar. Since the introduction of Allow bar I've been putting it in between Views and Operation, but after each BT start the rightmost two bars are at the left below Graphs+Views bars.
And yes, BT is wide enough to accomodate for all four toolbars.

Switching between tabs issue:
I've stopped BOINC client (shortly past 19:29:00) to install a newer version. In a few seconds BT dismissed all tasks from the Tasks tab pane. So far all good. But suddenly I could not switch to the Computers tab by clicking on it, neither on any other tab - the "tab button" just flashed after a click and nothing happened. But I was able to switch between tab panes using the "Show / ...." menu items, without any problem.

In a minute or so the newer BOINC version was installed and started (at 19:32:56). Some other minute later I helped the BT's connection to a client to be recovered - suddenly the usual switching between the tab panes was functional as usual.

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16 november 2011 - 22:29:57 BoincTasks version: 1.27
16 november 2011 - 22:29:57 Language ---- User: 1051 (SKY), System: 1051 (SKY), Selected: 0 () Used: 1051 (SKY)
16 november 2011 - 22:30:01 Maximum number of computers: Unlimited
16 november 2011 - 22:30:01 Computers ---- Vandus , localhost
[....]
17 november 2011 - 19:15:06 Connect ---- Connected to: Host: localhost, Vandus,Port: 31417, TThrottle Version: 5.44
17 november 2011 - 19:29:47 Connect ---- Lost connection to: Host: localhost, Vandus, Port: 31416
17 november 2011 - 19:34:12 BoincTasks is closing down all threads
17 november 2011 - 19:36:14 BoincTasks has closed down all threads
17 november 2011 - 19:36:16 Maximum number of computers: Unlimited
17 november 2011 - 19:36:16 Computers ---- Vandus , localhost
17 november 2011 - 19:36:17 Connect ---- Connected to: Host: localhost, Vandus, Port: 31416, BOINC Version: 6.13.12
17 november 2011 - 19:36:20 Connect ---- Connected to: Host: localhost, Vandus,Port: 31417, TThrottle Version: 5.44

It smells pretty ill like my issues with BT 1.25-1.27 and BOINC 6.13.9+6.13.10.
Please, idahofisherman, have you observed any of the issues I've been reporting?

I'm just thinking of checking an even newer 6.13.x client. I'd like to find out rather sooner (alpha) than at later (pre-release) stages...

Preferences tab:
"Use these temperatures" is using wrong translation ("Ak počítač nie je používaný") instead of "Použiť tieto teploty"

I didn't translate it.

Who knows?

"HotKey" - "HotKey"  (BTW what does the key trigger? I could not notice anything.)

The hotkey toggles the mini window.

It works now immediately and always, but back then I could not convince it to do anything

"Use these temperatures" is using wrong translation ("Ak počítač nie je používaný") instead of "Použiť tieto teploty"

Does this actually stop TT on the remote (which is what I want to do) or does it simply not display TT info in BT?

It will just de/activate throttling on the particular remote machine (and keep delivering the temperature info), if TTh already runs there.
It could terminate remote TTh, but I believe the existing solution is pretty cool.

I have no idea, how to remotely start TTh, without having some remote tool (command proxy) waiting for such command. You could consider the running remote TTh being such tool