After starting BT 1.24 for the first time, opening Setup, I've found the History length set at 120 (or even 60?) days - in 1.22 it was at 365 days!
The Graphs toolbar does really contain just graphs. But I believe the LT-History, with its window having very similar layout, would fit there too ;)
One concern with "Display active tasks" - if it is set and there are no more active tasks, the Tasks tab is empty. It is then not possible to open the tasks' context menu and display the inactive ones - context menu is the only way the control it... :-X
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2011, 01:09:34 PM
The last time I've opened my Long-term History window (set to 1 year) a couple of days ago. But today, just at opening the Short History tab (set to 23 hours), while BT was 2-3 seconds switched-busy after switching tabs, I've spotted some errored-out Milkyway task, one red line in a green ocean. After the refres it was gone. But it did nor appear in the Long-term History - the problem is, the most recent task there was finished on 6.10.2011 23:49, tasks finished during 7.10.-12.10.2011 are missing - one more bug to investigate?
After starting 1.24, the missed tasks appeared in its Lt-History. ??? Including the Milkyway task (was aborted by project).
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
After starting BT 1.24 for the first time, opening Setup, I've found the History length set at 120 (or even 60?) days - in 1.22 it was at 365 days!
These are the default values, changing then will override them. I found 365 a bit too much for a default setting.
The rest has been added to the list.
Quote from: fred on October 13, 2011, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
After starting BT 1.24 for the first time, opening Setup, I've found the History length set at 120 (or even 60?) days - in 1.22 it was at 365 days!
These are the default values, changing then will override them. I found 365 a bit too much for a default setting.
Sure. But "default" means "if such value does not exist yet", doesn't it?
In my case the existing history's 365-120=245 days were discarded without any warning. Do you remember, BT warns on user's
suicide an attempt to shorten the history...
What I want to say, 120 or 60 is just fine for an installation default. But not for a version update.
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2011, 01:48:58 PM
One concern with "Display active tasks" - if it is set and there are no more active tasks, the Tasks tab is empty. It is then not possible to open the tasks' context menu and display the inactive ones - context menu is the only way the control it... :-X
A few days ago, my ISP went down for approx 24 hours during which time my cache was totally cleaned out and I therefore had no WUS to process. What you are are reporting was also showing me in Tasks tab and the gadget that I appeared to have no machines connected to BT.
My point being that all machines were still connected yet not processing any data. I think it is disconcerting to get a report that no machines are connected when in fact they are. Wouldn't it make more sense to still report that they are connected even if they are not doing any work? After all, it should still be useful to be able to go to the messages tab to confirm that attempts are still being made to connect to the server.
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2011, 06:41:12 PM
Sure. But "default" means "if such value does not exist yet", doesn't it?
In my case the existing history's 365-120=245 days were discarded without any warning. Do you remember, BT warns on user's suicide an attempt to shorten the history...
What I want to say, 120 or 60 is just fine for an installation default. But not for a version update.
If you changed the default setting at any time it should take your setting and not the default setting.
Anyway there is is backup in the history folder.
Quote from: coolstream on October 13, 2011, 11:37:54 PM
A few days ago, my ISP went down for approx 24 hours during which time my cache was totally cleaned out and I therefore had no WUS to process. What you are are reporting was also showing me in Tasks tab and the gadget that I appeared to have no machines connected to BT.
My point being that all machines were still connected yet not processing any data. I think it is disconcerting to get a report that no machines are connected when in fact they are. Wouldn't it make more sense to still report that they are connected even if they are not doing any work? After all, it should still be useful to be able to go to the messages tab to confirm that attempts are still being made to connect to the server.
The tasks tab will be empty if there is nothing left. The gadget, if in tasks mode, will display nothing as well, as there is nothing.
But do you mean the messages tab is inaccessible as well?
The gadget stated something like
Running=0
Connected=0
where I would have expected it to state 'Connected=x'. It was easy enough for me to physically check all machines to ensure that they were all running and connected to the network because all machines are located in my house. I am thinking more of others who might not have all machines locted in the same building.
As for the messages tab, I think I will have to recreate the scenario to give an more accuate report.
the recent batch of updates seem to have trouble shutting down boinc
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 BoincTasks version: 1.24
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 Language ---- User: 2057 (ENG), System: 2057 (ENG), Selected: 0 () Used: 1033 (ENU)
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 Maximum number of computers: Unlimited
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 Computers ---- pc , localhost
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs, copy 1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:13 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs2
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs, copy 1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_pc.cvs2
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs, copy 1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:18 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs2
14 October 2011 - 14:24:23 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs, copy 1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:23 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs1
14 October 2011 - 14:24:23 CHistory::ReadFile ---- Unable to read to history file: C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\history\history_long_pc.cvs2
14 October 2011 - 14:24:25 Start BOINC client ---- The BOINC client started OK
14 October 2011 - 14:24:26 Connect ---- Connected to: Host: localhost, pc, Port: 31416, BOINC Version: 6.12.34
14 October 2011 - 14:24:33 Shut down BoincTasks ---- The BOINC client is shutting down
14 October 2011 - 14:25:04 Shut down BoincTasks ---- The BOINC client has shut down
14 October 2011 - 14:25:04 Shut down BoincTasks ---- The BOINC client couldn't be shut down
14 October 2011 - 14:25:04 Connect ---- The connection was lost, because the client stopped
Quote from: gabranth on October 14, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
the recent batch of updates seem to have trouble shutting down boinc
Do you have the BOINC Manager running, because it will restart BOINC if it detects it missing.
BT sends the client a shutdown message, it should always shut down.
But it may be that you want to close down the client too close to starting it.
Quote from: coolstream on October 14, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
The gadget stated something like
Running=0
Connected=0
You mean the gadget or the icon message?
The computer tab should show all connected computers.
Quote from: fred on October 14, 2011, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: gabranth on October 14, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
the recent batch of updates seem to have trouble shutting down boinc
Do you have the BOINC Manager running, because it will restart BOINC if it detects it missing.
BT sends the client a shutdown message, it should always shut down.
But it may be that you want to close down the client too close to starting it.
it was running for almost 12 hours just now started with boinctasks then shutdown with boinctasks also boinc seems to have closed before the WCG wu's shutdown
Quote from: fred on October 14, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: coolstream on October 14, 2011, 10:49:20 AM
The gadget stated something like
Running=0
Connected=0
You mean the gadget or the icon message?
The computer tab should show all connected computers.
The popup message which displays when the cursor is over the taskbar icon.
If a box is connected to BT but not running any WUs, the gadget popup does not count it as being connected until it is actually running tasks. If all machines are not running any tasks then the popup would say 'Connected=0'. To me, this implies that BT is not connecting successfully to the machines which in fact it is. I understand why it is reporting '0', but shouldn't this be more the function of the Tasks part of the report?
If it were to report something like
Running: 0,0=0
Connected computers=2
Then the user would be able to see that 2 machines are not running any tasks and would prompt him to restart the tasks. As it is, it simply looks as if no computers are connected which could lead the user to follow a different course of action (i.e. trying to reconnect when working connections actually exist).
I hope I am making myself clearer now ;)
Quote from: coolstream on October 16, 2011, 02:09:36 PM
I hope I am making myself clearer now ;)
Added to the list.
I have one computer for which BT is reporting all tasks as state "new" and no color highlighting. Information such as % complete is correct (and updating for those projects that are running). I thought it might be the large number of tasks that was the problem. I reported most of the reportable ones and that did NOT fix the problem. BT does work correctly for a few minutes before it starts doing this.
The BOINC is 6.13.8 on a remote computer.
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 21, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
I have one computer for which BT is reporting all tasks as state "new" and no color highlighting. Information such as % complete is correct (and updating for those projects that are running). I thought it might be the large number of tasks that was the problem. I reported most of the reportable ones and that did NOT fix the problem. BT does work correctly for a few minutes before it starts doing this.
The BOINC is 6.13.8 on a remote computer.
What projects are you running? I will try to test it.
I've seen there are some changes in the status.
Quote from: fred on October 22, 2011, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 21, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
I have one computer for which BT is reporting all tasks as state "new" and no color highlighting. Information such as % complete is correct (and updating for those projects that are running). I thought it might be the large number of tasks that was the problem. I reported most of the reportable ones and that did NOT fix the problem. BT does work correctly for a few minutes before it starts doing this.
The BOINC is 6.13.8 on a remote computer.
What projects are you running? I will try to test it.
I've seen there are some changes in the status.
That machine has pretty much everything attached (unfortunately). At the moment it is working correctly. I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.
A partial list of tasks from the last few days:
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_42002523_92_0 03:59:53 (00:08:24) 10/22/2011 8:52:47 PM 10/22/2011 8:52:47 PM Missed jmcleod-home
WUProp@Home 3.27 Data collect version 3 (nci) wu_v3_1319038646_102777_0 03:00:03 (00:00:21) 10/22/2011 8:44:09 PM 10/22/2011 8:44:09 PM Missed jmcleod-home
ralph@home 0.00 Rosetta Mini Beta or36_boinc_blind_or36_abrelax_cs_frags_rdc_newcsts_sgourn_SAVE_ALL_OUT__15697_3531_0 00:59:49 (00:59:24) 10/22/2011 6:16:05 AM 10/22/2011 5:12:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
DNA@Home 0.18 Gibbs sampler test_newmotifs_11_18978_70000_1 00:27:24 (00:27:08) 10/22/2011 12:24:39 PM 10/22/2011 5:12:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41988304_7_0 04:00:00 (00:08:27) 10/22/2011 4:52:12 PM 10/22/2011 4:52:52 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
ibercivis 0.06 Search for wilson primes Mr.Wilson_22_07_03_31_814205388_2620819073_0 00:51:27 (00:50:55) 10/22/2011 1:50:32 PM 10/22/2011 2:10:42 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Server for testing Bolpex 1.71 New Folding 3079_volpex_worker_280_1319302338 00:25:32 (00:00:00) 10/22/2011 1:18:05 PM 10/22/2011 1:20:13 PM Reported: Computation error (-1,) jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41973817_34_0 03:59:23 (00:07:57) 10/22/2011 12:52:06 PM 10/22/2011 12:52:06 PM Missed jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 0.00 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41959428_16_0 03:59:35 (00:08:23) 10/22/2011 8:51:28 AM 10/22/2011 8:52:09 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
WUProp@Home 0.00 Data collect version 3 (nci) wu_v3_1319038646_86862_0 02:59:45 (00:00:21) 10/22/2011 8:40:48 AM 10/22/2011 8:40:48 AM Missed jmcleod-home
Quake-Catcher Network 0.00 QCN Sensor (nci) qcnb_083034_0 23:59:59 (00:04:11) 10/22/2011 6:49:02 AM 10/22/2011 6:49:02 AM Missed jmcleod-home
SETI@home 0.00 SETI@home Enhanced (cuda23) 19se11af.10998.1703.12.10.57_0 05:47:44 (00:07:59) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM 10/22/2011 6:41:47 AM 0.09C + 1NV Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Constellation 0.10 TrackJack trackjack_hyend_www.hybrid-triebwerk.de_2011-09-26_00_209668_0 05:29:32 (05:28:30) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
primaboinca 7.05 primaboinca uc_1318578500_293976275023_0 02:15:15 (02:14:41) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Moo! Wrapper 1.02 Distributed.net Client dnetc_r72_1319211423_9_9_0 02:05:50 (02:05:06) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
PrimeGrid 0.00 PPS (Sieve) (cuda23) pps_sr2sieve_33924776_0 17:29:45 (00:10:10) 10/22/2011 12:50:34 AM 10/22/2011 12:52:46 AM 0.01C + 1NV Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Mersenne@home 0.00 Lucas-Lehmer primality test llpt_21106121_127900_1 03:38:33 (03:37:39) 10/21/2011 10:33:36 PM 10/21/2011 10:37:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
CAS@home 5.14 Short-Cut Threading wu_1310899542_1116297_1 00:31:49 (00:30:27) 10/21/2011 8:36:08 AM 10/21/2011 8:46:28 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
eon2 3.10 eOn Client 1685261387_998414_0 02:44:08 (02:40:14) 10/21/2011 3:50:48 AM 10/21/2011 4:08:30 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Collatz Conjecture 2.03 mini_collatz (cuda23) collatz_2371887108178620164456_103079215104_1 05:58:05 (00:01:00) 10/19/2011 8:20:46 PM 10/19/2011 8:26:39 PM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
DNETC@HOME 1.19 DNETC@Home (cuda23) dnetc_gpu_NV_546386_0 23:24:21 (11:47:03) 10/18/2011 3:09:43 PM 10/19/2011 7:39:43 PM 0.05C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
World Community Grid 6.42 Help Conquer Cancer X0960041851189200411271818_0 01:54:15 (01:51:42) 10/19/2011 6:18:40 AM 10/19/2011 4:39:22 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Cosmology@Home 2.16 CAMB wu_101511_002038_0_0_0 23:14:17 (22:48:51) 10/17/2011 6:02:31 PM 10/18/2011 6:03:38 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
PrimeGrid 1.39 PPS (Sieve) (cuda23) pps_sr2sieve_33660018_1 17:29:53 (00:09:31) 10/17/2011 2:34:08 PM 10/18/2011 7:22:45 AM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
QMC@HOME 5.01 QMC@HOME-qasino-alpha qasino_b3lyptz-15_s22test.56726_0 01d,08:03:20 (01d,07:46:50) 10/16/2011 9:03:29 PM 10/17/2011 9:49:12 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41453367_48_0 04:00:03 (00:08:24) 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM 10/16/2011 1:39:10 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Collatz Conjecture 2.03 collatz (cuda23) collatz_2371723005862016166248_824633720832_1 01d,22:26:22 (00:06:57) 10/14/2011 1:39:13 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
correlizer 1.00 BioMedical Genome Correlations corr_1091980_1 00:39:58 (00:38:01) 10/14/2011 1:54:29 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Docking 6.23 Charmm 34a2 1ebw1hsg_mod0014crossdockinghiv1_18151_421172_0 04:26:12 (04:15:17) 10/14/2011 12:26:33 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
rosetta@home 3.14 Rosetta Mini 3alipa_1_CYCA_2rff_ProteinInterfaceDesign_26Aug2011_30693_571_0 04:20:48 (03:00:05) 10/14/2011 1:52:22 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
AlmereGrid Boinc Grid 6.14 BioMedial Genome Correlations for Research and Healt Care corr_222110_0 00:49:41 (00:47:50) 10/14/2011 10:21:13 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Leiden Classical 5.40 trajtou-pd110paw wu_649415041_1318431001_2813_1 00:48:15 (00:41:56) 10/14/2011 12:39:41 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Enigma@Home 5.26 Enigma 0.76b rxpsb107-p2_0_13709051_18515_0 03:09:26 (02:59:29) 10/14/2011 3:09:44 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
climateprediction.net 0.00 UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region hadam3p_eu_6t40_2005_1_007504997_2 04d,15:53:38 (04d,12:52:20) 10/22/2011 7:21:07 AM Uploading jmcleod-home
NumberFields@home 0.00 Get Decics with Bounded Discriminant wu_12E10_SF161-1_Idx3_Grp56346of59290_0 02:49:55 (02:49:07) 10/22/2011 6:45:11 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_68f1b20b-d6e7-49ba-a0cf-9cf04ad50180_201110220940_0 00:38:57 (00:38:43) 10/22/2011 5:58:26 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
yafu 0.00 YAFU yafu_C91_1319246730_187_0 00:00:13 (00:00:10) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_505bb5d5-1214-4754-a23d-391c0231333e_201110220940_0 00:42:37 (00:42:26) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_77ddc7aa-c333-46ce-9cee-63a2a8dea480_201110220940_0 00:30:18 (00:30:07) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NumberFields@home 0.00 Get Decics with Bounded Discriminant wu_12E10_SF161-1_Idx3_Grp56442of59290_0 01:06:48 (01:06:32) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
CAS@home 0.00 Short-Cut Threading wu_1310899542_1138299_0 00:29:25 (00:29:05) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
Docking 6.23 Charmm 34a2 1hvk1hsg_mod0014crossdockinghiv1_9792_46421_0 03:51:35 (03:50:03) 10/22/2011 10:01:17 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
SZTAKI Desktop Grid 2.06 NumSys Search dbbb0b60-d41c-41ea-8e5f-d1777c9dfd8b_409cd187-5caf-4411-9c37-f76d646ee590_253277_1 00:00:25 (00:00:16) 10/22/2011 7:21:45 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NFS@Home 1.09 16e Lattice Sieve S2m1061b_432861_2 00:58:26 (00:57:57) 10/22/2011 9:16:31 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
yoyo@home 445.01 Muon muon_111021134622_18_0 03:28:09 (03:27:05) 10/22/2011 12:07:23 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
Milkyway@home 0.88 MilkyWay@Home ps_separation_82_2s_mix3_1_4153993_0 03:07:41 (03:05:47) 10/22/2011 12:24:13 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
ibercivis 0.06 Search for wilson primes Mr.Wilson_22_07_03_09_359556987_2620824077_1 00:53:52 (00:53:08) 10/22/2011 3:04:28 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NFS@Home 1.09 16e Lattice Sieve S2m1061b_459037_1 01:12:45 (01:12:07) 10/22/2011 3:13:22 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 23, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
That machine has pretty much everything attached (unfortunately). At the moment it is working correctly. I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.
Most likely a bug in the BOINC Alpha client.
Quote from: fred on October 23, 2011, 08:06:59 AM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 23, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
That machine has pretty much everything attached (unfortunately). At the moment it is working correctly. I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.
Most likely a bug in the BOINC Alpha client.
I have a second computer with the same problem. It is also running 6.13.x. It doew not have the large number of waiting uploads..
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 24, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
I have a second computer with the same problem. It is also running 6.13.x. It doew not have the large number of waiting uploads..
Try restarting the BOINC client, if the problem is still there I will add this to my todo list.
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 23, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.
CPDN has announced that the site has been attacked and it has been shut down until repaired, etc. this is from 4 or 5 days ago.
I've a lot of CPDN work pending upload too because of this reason :'(
QuoteOn 18 October 2011 the CPDN project server was attacked.
We have had to respond by taking the project offline.
I will provide more info as I have it, but I will be devoting my time to fixing the issues and determining the extent of the problem.
On behalf of CPDN I should like to apologise for the inconvenience this will cause
Jonathan Miller
CPDN SysAdmin