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Show posts MenuQuote from: Corsair on December 15, 2009, 08:40:45 PMCheck in the BOINC/slots and check what application you find there.
Hi Fred,
I'm experience high temperatures in laptop I think due a project:
Ibercivis is running under:
bless-docking_1.16_windows_intelx86.exe ---> CDOCK.exe
this last it's only present in the Slots folder, because in the
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Datos de programa\BOINC\projects\registro.ibercivis.es
is present only this one: CDOCK_win_2.0.exe
if I activate in the BOINC Tab the "Show all" option I could see only "cdock_win_2.0"
in Process explorer I see
---> bless-docking_1.16_windows_intelx86.exe ---> cdock.exe
and in TThorttle I see this.
Número de programas coincidentes (Procesos): 1
Cpu: bless-docking_1.16_windows_intelx86.exe, PID: 5244, Hilos: 3
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 0 0 0
this is the laptop with TT version 1.73 x86 with set temperature of 68º Celsius and having readings
of 69.x to 70.x, this is not the first time that this happens, I remember in early version of TT that
there was another throttling problem with this project and if I remember same program.
Quote from: Pepo on December 15, 2009, 11:07:49 AMYou give me interesting problems , I added that one to the list.
It often happens that some columns are a bit narrow and trailing parts of message / application / task / project / date / time / etc. string are "truncat..." To be able see the hidden text, it is necessary to enlarge (and then narrow back) the column.
- When hovering mouse cursor over such text, a tool tip containing the whole text could be displayed.
- Such tooltip is usally left-aligned with the original text. But if the tool tip would be displayed through the right display border (or left border for any right-to-left reading locale? OK kidding now), it's position should be shifted to the left as much as necessary to display the whole tool tip on-screen. (A good example of ignoring such situation is Boinc Manager - it has no problem to display tooltips obscured by the screen border.)
Quote from: Pepo on December 15, 2009, 09:33:54 AMThanks I can work with that.Quote from: fred on December 15, 2009, 08:51:18 AM
I will have to modify the gpu detection rule.
1) Will make an exception list mt, nci
2) Or will use the cpu / gpu use data. This is probably the best way to go.
Another question: Do these tasks have an empty Use column?
No, they are the only ones with non-empty Use column and display "2.00C" and "0.01C". Corresponding lines in BOINC Manager display additional trailing "(2.00 CPUs)" and "(0.01 CPUs)" texts in the Status column.
Quote from: Pepo on December 15, 2009, 08:33:14 AMI will have to modify the gpu detection rule.Quote from: fred on December 14, 2009, 03:56:15 PM
Ok I see the problem I don't catch the -1 from the GPU throttle meaning no GPU found. Probably this translates to 101. And as the GPU is not reporting a temperature there is none.
Next question: In the application column (QCN, Aqua) is there something between () the plan class for the application.
Yes there is (or are):
- "4.14 D-Wave's Adiabatic QUantum Algorithms - Multi-Threaded (mt)" - apparently combined of <user_friendly_name>D-Wave's Adiabatic QUantum Algorithms - Multi-Threaded</user_friendly_name> and <plan_class>mt</plan_class>
- "5.40 QCN Sensor (nci)" - apparently combined of <user_friendly_name>QCN Sensor</user_friendly_name> and <plan_class>nci</plan_class>
BTW, I have one more project with non-empty plan_class - BOINC multithreading test, but without any task. And a couple of projects' sched_request_***.xml files specify an empty plan_class, but neither of them shows () parentheses in the application column.
Quote from: Pepo on December 14, 2009, 03:26:16 PMI stopped expanding on the non combined mode, only if there is an overwhelming interest in some features there....
I can constantly see 101%, both (non-CPU-intensive) QCN and (2 thread) Aqua.
From log: Throttle range was set to 24-100%, few seconds later I've set the maximum to 90%, a bit later to 100% (just the effective throttling started to rise from 24%).
One more possibly importand thing: Neither QCN nor Aqua task lines show the temperature, just 101% throttling. If I suspend Aqua, then e.g. two SETIs are running, no throttling and with temperature (68 degrees) displayed. Additionally there is my QCN with 101% and still no temperature.
And just the combined window is showing the values from TThrottle, a single computer window has both Throttle and Temperature columns empty. (I've missed whether this is by design.)
Quote from: Pepo on December 14, 2009, 02:38:24 PMOk goto Help->Show log.Quote from: fred on December 14, 2009, 02:03:14 PM2) Well, off course the QCN app is accessing the USB device, not TThrottle I just wanted to show that it is actively doing somenthing and consuming some more than -1% of CPU cyclesQuote from: Pepo on December 14, 2009, 01:39:36 PM2) USB sensor? Not TThrottle.[...] I've paused one Seti to let the Aqua MT app (a "2.00 CPU" class app on my computer) go - it took over both cores and - surprise - got throttled by 101%.
- Second, the application is continuously communicating with USB sensor and is consuming its fraction of CPU.
- Third, my QCN application is excluded from being throttled. another reason for the throttling state to be displayed as 0%. (BTW, currently my CPU temp is that low, that no apps are throttled. Just the (excluded) QCN...)
3) Goto the BOINC tab and check if the QCN project is there. Check "Show All" and see if the QCN exe is in the list.
3) In the BOINC tab, both Aqua and QCN projects are listed. With "Show All", all QCN-related apps are displayed prefixed with (at least one) '$' sign. Aquas are not prefixed.
On the Programs tab, Aqua is listed among other apps, QCN is not there.
After removing QCN from the list of excluded apps, it appeared in the Programs list. But BoincTasks still shows the same 101%.
I'd like to ask some volunteer running any GPU application (which are usually not a 1.00 CPU apps) to check how much are they being throttled (according to the BT's Throttle column).
Quote from: Pepo on December 14, 2009, 01:39:36 PM1) I put the 101% on the bug list.
Again my non-CPU-intensive QCN. BT is showing it being throttled by 101%, which is a double or triple nonsense
- First, nothing can be throttled by more than 100% (except the CPU would unwind previously executed code instructions).
- Second, the application is continuously communicating with USB sensor and is consuming its fraction of CPU.
- Third, my QCN application is excluded from being throttled. another reason for the throttling state to be displayed as 0%. (BTW, currently my CPU temp is that low, that no apps are throttled. Just the (excluded) QCN...)
The application is marked as an "0.01 CPU" class app, maybe the wrong throttle status is displayed because of this?
As an excercise, I've set the throttling range to 24-90% - suddenly the two running SETIs are throttled by (expected) 10%. QCN stays at (incorrect) 101%. Then I've paused one Seti to let the Aqua MT app (a "2.00 CPU" class app on my computer) go - it took over both cores and - surprise - got throttled by 101%.
So there is apparently some bug with displaying 101% throttling for any application, which does not belong to the usual 1.00 CPU class.
Quote from: Corsair on December 12, 2009, 03:08:12 PM
Hi Fred,
really very good this release.
very good idea the icons for controlling the work, but if this icons are accessible
all the time, why not remove from the right click of the mouse, I think it's much
more accessible with the icons.
remove the computer ID number in the computer windows now it has no sense.
what about the column in Projects window with the warehouse time for each
computer/project??
still the behaviour of the AMD/ATI GPU units is not the desired, I guess they
don't work as the CUDA/NVIDIA units, because with the ATI GPU work is showing
as error all the time.
Quote from: Pepo on December 11, 2009, 05:36:18 PMAs far as I can check TThrottle always starts with the minimum value, 24% in this case and works it way up.
I've restarted my system, not touching TTh settings. Prior to the reboot, the CPU temperature (dual-core) was by some 5-7 degree lower than the throttling threshold. After the reboot, the beginning of the graph shows cores' temperatures rising from -12 to -7 degrees below the limit. So I'd assume there should be no reason for throttling.
The beginning of the throttling line seems to be started stright up from somewhere around 45% to 100% during maybe just one second (can't zoom anymore, I've noticed it after 100 minutes) - this is surely no slow de-throttling, which happens slowly, possibly some throttling variable was used to display throttling value with an initial value of 0%?
Although being just an optical glitch, the graphs (especially 12h+24h ones, for a long time) are unnecessarily scaled to show 19-102 area, while a better zoomed 59-102 would be displayed instead
(My throttling range is set to 24-100%, which is matching the displayed area and possibly the reason for low initial throttling value was somewhere else - I'll try to remember to keep my eye on in the next time I'll reboot (usually once in a couple of weeks )).
One more wish:
- To all time selector popup menus, add some value into the large gap between 1 and 12 hours - maybe 3 or 4 hours.
Quote from: j2satx on December 07, 2009, 05:45:36 PMThe minimum amount you can set is one day, when the regulator is active. This may not work for a lower number of WU. I've made this for users with large > 1000 amount of WU's.
Does not appear to be working for me. I set it for one and it continues to allow downloading more WUs.
BoincTasks 0.29 on W7 64.
Quote from: Corsair on December 03, 2009, 07:39:23 PMForgot about that one, heard about that once, what project did that?
Hi Fred,
really impressive this version, is going quite well.
just seen this in History:
Projects column: Updating ....
Application column: Updating, please wait
Quote from: Dave_In_Melb on December 01, 2009, 07:49:09 PMYou can:
I have just tried to install BT 0.30. Norton 360 Sonar detected it as a risk and quarantined the installation file (the file downloaded from efmer). Previous installations have worked ok.