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Title: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on April 27, 2014, 06:50:46 PM
I Just did a clean install of Win 8.1 and had to reinstall my Apps.  With version 1.58, I see everything I want on all tabs except the Tasks tab.  I've set the columns I want, and they show but no tasks show.  When I first installed it they were okay, but they went away while I was working through all the settings to get it set up the way I wanted.  I uninstalled and reinstalled but no change.  The gadget show the running tasks. I have only one computer.  I've tried synchronize.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: idahofisherman on April 27, 2014, 11:58:04 PM
Go to extra tab and make sure that it shows CPU tasks is checked.  Also make sure that show GPU tasks is checked as well as non CPU intensive is checked.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on April 28, 2014, 12:34:45 AM
The Show Cpu, Gpu, and NCI are all checked. 
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on April 28, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
Now this is interesting.  I tried turning the "Show CPU/GPU/NCI tasks" off and back on.  No tasks show when all 3 are checked, but the CPU  and GPU tasks show when I turn off Show CPU  but leave GPU checked.  ( I don't have any NCI tasks on hand so don't know what happens there.)  If I check CPU but not GPU the GPU tasks show but not the CPU  tasks...... 

So I can get by but I'm puzzled.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on April 28, 2014, 07:25:30 AM
Quote from: Fred E. on April 28, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
So I can get by but I'm puzzled.
It's on my check list.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on April 29, 2014, 03:54:04 AM
Quote from: Fred E. on April 28, 2014, 03:17:37 AM
Now this is interesting.  I tried turning the "Show CPU/GPU/NCI tasks" off and back on.  No tasks show when all 3 are checked, but the CPU  and GPU tasks show when I turn off Show CPU  but leave GPU checked.  ( I don't have any NCI tasks on hand so don't know what happens there.)  If I check CPU but not GPU the GPU tasks show but not the CPU  tasks...... 

So I can get by but I'm puzzled.
Detection comes from the resource (use) column. GPU tasks should show NV or ATI.
1) What project(s) are you running?
2) What's in the Use column?
3) 32 or 64 bit system?
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on April 29, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
1) I am currently attached to SETI and just added WUPROP to check the NCI tasks, and it shows okay with the "'show NCI tasks" checked.  I can add other projects if you want me to test them.  By the way, WUPROP is not on the list to add a project in BM or BOINC Manager, so I used the URL method.

2) The Use column is blank for CPU in BT 1.58 and also in BOINC Manager for version 7.2.42 (x64). Both BM and BT show the correct usage for GPU and NCI including the NVidia info.

3) 64 Bit Windows 8.1.

So it sounds like the problem is with this version of BOINC Manager.  Want me to revert to an earlier version to test?

Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on April 29, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: Fred E. on April 29, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
So it sounds like the problem is with this version of BOINC Manager.  Want me to revert to an earlier version to test?
7.2.42 probably.

That's exactly what I'm using right now. Same Windows version same project and NV card.
For now I have no idea, made some changes in 1.59.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on April 29, 2014, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: fred on April 29, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
Quote from: Fred E. on April 29, 2014, 11:12:43 AM
So it sounds like the problem is with this version of BOINC Manager.  Want me to revert to an earlier version to test?
7.2.42 probably.

That's exactly what I'm using right now. Same Windows version same project and NV card.
For now I have no idea, made some changes in 1.59.

Yes, it should have said 7.2.42 - sorry.  I'll edit it to fix it for benefit of others. Does your 7.2.42 show CPU usage?  As I said earlier, I'm getting by okay now so no rush for me.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on April 29, 2014, 01:56:21 PM
Quote from: Fred E. on April 29, 2014, 01:38:48 PM
Yes, it should have said 7.2.42 - sorry.  I'll edit it to fix it for benefit of others. Does your 7.2.42 show CPU usage?  As I said earlier, I'm getting by okay now so no rush for me.
Lets see how it goes with 1.59
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: Fred E. on May 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Installed 1.59 and there's no change - still have to remove the check mark from "Show CPU tasks" to see all my tasks. I'm getting along okay so it is just a mystery.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on May 14, 2014, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: Fred E. on May 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Installed 1.59 and there's no change - still have to remove the check mark from "Show CPU tasks" to see all my tasks. I'm getting along okay so it is just a mystery.
But... this may be something more serious.
I will add some debugging in 1.61, we will get to the bottom.

Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 13, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Fred,

I love BoincTasks. I don't know what I would do without it. The Suspend at Checkpoint in 1.64 is great!

I'm running BT 1.64 on Win 7 64-bit with BOINC 7.2.42 (x64) and I still have this same problem. With Show CPU tasks checked under the Extra menu, I cannot see any CPU tasks in the Tasks tab. I believe it works just the opposite for GPU tasks, I have to have Show CPU tasks checked but not Show GPU tasks to see any GPU tasks in the Tasks tab.

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling several times with the same version. I have tried uninstalling before installing the new version. I have tried uninstalling the Beta version I was running and installing the same number version once it became the stable version. I have upgraded my NVIDIA driver. None of these have made a difference.

I do not remember exactly when this started.

The only thing I have not done is uninstall and search the registry for all references to BoincTasks or eFMer and remove those before installing. If you think that would help, I could try that but would rather save that as a last option.

I update to the latest Beta when it is released.

Is there any other fix to this problem?

John T
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 13, 2014, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: HighTech67 on September 13, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Is there any other fix to this problem?
Is there any specific project that causes this?

Do some testing for me. Use 1.64 on the machine.

Go to Show->Log Check "Enable debug logging"
Click on the "Debug setup" button and check "Tasks Show CPU/GPU".

Exit BoincTasks and restart it.
Open the Tasks tab and let it sit there for at least 5 minutes.

Go to Show->Log and copy the log and send it to me. E-Mail in the about box.
Give me some screenshots of the tasks that cause problems, sometimes seeing the problem is everything.

Let's see if we can resolve this, because right now I don't have any clue what it's causing it.

Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 14, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
This happens with all of the projects I run. I am not currently running any GPU tasks, but I took some screen shots showing the Extra menu and the selections on it for you as well as copying the log after letting BoincTasks run for over 10 minutes. I zipped all that up and emailed it to you as requested. It will come from the email I registered on this site with.

I hope this helps.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 14, 2014, 11:24:53 AM
Quote from: HighTech67 on September 14, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
I hope this helps.
Not much, I simply can't reproduce it. Tested with only CPU tasks, no luck, it keeps on working.
So I will redesign the whole thing, there is obviously something wrong as I got more than one report.
Let's see if this helps in 1.65.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 16, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
OK 1.65 is ready.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 16, 2014, 10:45:32 AM
I just installed version 1.65 and there is no change.

If I select only Show CPU tasks, I see no tasks. If I select only Show GPU tasks, I can see my CPU tasks.

I am not currently running any GPU tasks.

Sorry, but whatever you did, didn't work. At least not for me.

Also, it appears as though I have lost the ability to choose which projects I wish to see by selecting them in the second window under All Projects.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 16, 2014, 02:03:21 PM
Quote from: HighTech67 on September 16, 2014, 10:45:32 AM
I just installed version 1.65 and there is no change.
Hmm should not be possible.
Exit BoincTasks.

Run regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\BoincTasks
Delete the whole folder filter.
Start BoincTasks again.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 16, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: fred on September 16, 2014, 02:03:21 PM

Hmm should not be possible.
Exit BoincTasks.

Run regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\BoincTasks
Delete the whole folder filter.
Start BoincTasks again.

That fixed it the Show CPU tasks problem.

But I still have the problem with the Sidebar project selection that is new to version 1.65.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 18, 2014, 06:45:19 AM
Quote from: HighTech67 on September 16, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
But I still have the problem with the Sidebar project selection that is new to version 1.65.
Was there since 1.54, but with 1.65 we lost it  :o, too much deactivated, should work again in 1.66.
In 1.64 it should work.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 18, 2014, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: fred on September 18, 2014, 06:45:19 AM
Quote from: HighTech67 on September 16, 2014, 03:07:43 PM
But I still have the problem with the Sidebar project selection that is new to version 1.65.
Was there since 1.54, but with 1.65 we lost it  :o , too much deactivated, should work again in 1.66.
In 1.64 it should work.

Sorry, I wasn't clear.

The Sidebar project selection is not new to version 1.65. The fact that it does not work is new to version 1.65. It is under the View menu and was off when I restarted after deleting the registry key.

BTW, has anyone else with this problem tried deleting the registry key to fix your show tasks problem?
A bit of a heads up, it will erase ALL of your settings, but you can save your colors in BT by going to File->Write color settings before deleting the registry key and then File->Read color settings after restarting BT. Anything else I think you will have to write down to preserve, like your column order, sort preferences or anything else you don't think you can remember.

Sorry I didn't try the registry thing first Fred. That might have saved you from having to re-write a working program.
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: fred on September 18, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I clarify:
Run regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\BoincTasks
Don't delete that folder but delete ONLY the folder filter.

The not working Project sidebar is in the fixed item list for 1.66
Title: Re: No Tasks show on Tasks Tab
Post by: HighTech67 on September 18, 2014, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: fred on September 18, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
I clarify:
Run regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\eFMer\BoincTasks
Don't delete that folder but delete ONLY the folder filter.


My bad. I deleted the entire BoincTasks folder.

But it did fix the problem.  ;D