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#1
Beta Testing / Re: BT 1.24
October 24, 2011, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: fred on October 23, 2011, 08:06:59 AM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 23, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
That machine has pretty much everything attached (unfortunately).  At the moment it is working correctly.  I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.
Most likely a bug in the BOINC Alpha  client.
I have a second computer with the same problem.  It is also running 6.13.x.  It doew not have the large number of waiting uploads..
#2
Beta Testing / Re: BT 1.24
October 23, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
Quote from: fred on October 22, 2011, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on October 21, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
I have one computer for which BT is reporting all tasks as state "new" and no color highlighting.  Information such as % complete is correct (and updating for those projects that are running).  I thought it might be the large number of tasks that was the problem.  I reported most of the reportable ones and that did NOT fix the problem.  BT does work correctly for a few minutes before it starts doing this. 

The BOINC is 6.13.8 on a remote computer.
What projects are you running? I will try to test it.
I've seen there are some changes in the status.
That machine has pretty much everything attached (unfortunately).  At the moment it is working correctly.  I would also like to note that there are about 50 CPDN files awaiting upload.

A partial list of tasks from the last few days:


FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_42002523_92_0 03:59:53 (00:08:24) 10/22/2011 8:52:47 PM 10/22/2011 8:52:47 PM Missed jmcleod-home
WUProp@Home 3.27 Data collect version 3 (nci) wu_v3_1319038646_102777_0 03:00:03 (00:00:21) 10/22/2011 8:44:09 PM 10/22/2011 8:44:09 PM Missed jmcleod-home
ralph@home 0.00 Rosetta Mini Beta or36_boinc_blind_or36_abrelax_cs_frags_rdc_newcsts_sgourn_SAVE_ALL_OUT__15697_3531_0 00:59:49 (00:59:24) 10/22/2011 6:16:05 AM 10/22/2011 5:12:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
DNA@Home 0.18 Gibbs sampler test_newmotifs_11_18978_70000_1 00:27:24 (00:27:08) 10/22/2011 12:24:39 PM 10/22/2011 5:12:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41988304_7_0 04:00:00 (00:08:27) 10/22/2011 4:52:12 PM 10/22/2011 4:52:52 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
ibercivis 0.06 Search for wilson primes Mr.Wilson_22_07_03_31_814205388_2620819073_0 00:51:27 (00:50:55) 10/22/2011 1:50:32 PM 10/22/2011 2:10:42 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Server for testing Bolpex 1.71 New Folding 3079_volpex_worker_280_1319302338 00:25:32 (00:00:00) 10/22/2011 1:18:05 PM 10/22/2011 1:20:13 PM Reported: Computation error (-1,) jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41973817_34_0 03:59:23 (00:07:57) 10/22/2011 12:52:06 PM 10/22/2011 12:52:06 PM Missed jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 0.00 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41959428_16_0 03:59:35 (00:08:23) 10/22/2011 8:51:28 AM 10/22/2011 8:52:09 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
WUProp@Home 0.00 Data collect version 3 (nci) wu_v3_1319038646_86862_0 02:59:45 (00:00:21) 10/22/2011 8:40:48 AM 10/22/2011 8:40:48 AM Missed jmcleod-home
Quake-Catcher Network 0.00 QCN Sensor (nci) qcnb_083034_0 23:59:59 (00:04:11) 10/22/2011 6:49:02 AM 10/22/2011 6:49:02 AM Missed jmcleod-home
SETI@home 0.00 SETI@home Enhanced (cuda23) 19se11af.10998.1703.12.10.57_0 05:47:44 (00:07:59) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM 10/22/2011 6:41:47 AM 0.09C + 1NV Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Constellation 0.10 TrackJack trackjack_hyend_www.hybrid-triebwerk.de_2011-09-26_00_209668_0 05:29:32 (05:28:30) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
primaboinca 7.05 primaboinca uc_1318578500_293976275023_0 02:15:15 (02:14:41) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Moo! Wrapper 1.02 Distributed.net Client dnetc_r72_1319211423_9_9_0 02:05:50 (02:05:06) 10/22/2011 4:33:27 AM 10/22/2011 5:37:32 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
PrimeGrid 0.00 PPS (Sieve) (cuda23) pps_sr2sieve_33924776_0 17:29:45 (00:10:10) 10/22/2011 12:50:34 AM 10/22/2011 12:52:46 AM 0.01C + 1NV Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Mersenne@home 0.00 Lucas-Lehmer primality test llpt_21106121_127900_1 03:38:33 (03:37:39) 10/21/2011 10:33:36 PM 10/21/2011 10:37:44 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
CAS@home 5.14 Short-Cut Threading wu_1310899542_1116297_1 00:31:49 (00:30:27) 10/21/2011 8:36:08 AM 10/21/2011 8:46:28 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
eon2 3.10 eOn Client 1685261387_998414_0 02:44:08 (02:40:14) 10/21/2011 3:50:48 AM 10/21/2011 4:08:30 AM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Collatz Conjecture 2.03 mini_collatz (cuda23) collatz_2371887108178620164456_103079215104_1 05:58:05 (00:01:00) 10/19/2011 8:20:46 PM 10/19/2011 8:26:39 PM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
DNETC@HOME 1.19 DNETC@Home (cuda23) dnetc_gpu_NV_546386_0 23:24:21 (11:47:03) 10/18/2011 3:09:43 PM 10/19/2011 7:39:43 PM 0.05C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
World Community Grid 6.42 Help Conquer Cancer X0960041851189200411271818_0 01:54:15 (01:51:42) 10/19/2011 6:18:40 AM 10/19/2011 4:39:22 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Cosmology@Home 2.16 CAMB wu_101511_002038_0_0_0 23:14:17 (22:48:51) 10/17/2011 6:02:31 PM 10/18/2011 6:03:38 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
PrimeGrid 1.39 PPS (Sieve) (cuda23) pps_sr2sieve_33660018_1 17:29:53 (00:09:31) 10/17/2011 2:34:08 PM 10/18/2011 7:22:45 AM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
QMC@HOME 5.01 QMC@HOME-qasino-alpha qasino_b3lyptz-15_s22test.56726_0 01d,08:03:20 (01d,07:46:50) 10/16/2011 9:03:29 PM 10/17/2011 9:49:12 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
FreeHAL@home 1.93 FreeHAL fh_nci_0_41453367_48_0 04:00:03 (00:08:24) 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM 10/16/2011 1:39:10 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Collatz Conjecture 2.03 collatz (cuda23) collatz_2371723005862016166248_824633720832_1 01d,22:26:22 (00:06:57) 10/14/2011 1:39:13 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM 0.01C + 1NV (d0) Reported: OK jmcleod-home
correlizer 1.00 BioMedical Genome Correlations corr_1091980_1 00:39:58 (00:38:01) 10/14/2011 1:54:29 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Docking 6.23 Charmm 34a2 1ebw1hsg_mod0014crossdockinghiv1_18151_421172_0 04:26:12 (04:15:17) 10/14/2011 12:26:33 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
rosetta@home 3.14 Rosetta Mini 3alipa_1_CYCA_2rff_ProteinInterfaceDesign_26Aug2011_30693_571_0 04:20:48 (03:00:05) 10/14/2011 1:52:22 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
AlmereGrid Boinc Grid 6.14 BioMedial Genome Correlations for Research and Healt Care corr_222110_0 00:49:41 (00:47:50) 10/14/2011 10:21:13 AM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Leiden Classical 5.40 trajtou-pd110paw wu_649415041_1318431001_2813_1 00:48:15 (00:41:56) 10/14/2011 12:39:41 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
Enigma@Home 5.26 Enigma 0.76b rxpsb107-p2_0_13709051_18515_0 03:09:26 (02:59:29) 10/14/2011 3:09:44 PM 10/16/2011 1:10:57 PM Reported: OK jmcleod-home
climateprediction.net 0.00 UK Met Office HADAM3P European Region hadam3p_eu_6t40_2005_1_007504997_2 04d,15:53:38 (04d,12:52:20) 10/22/2011 7:21:07 AM Uploading jmcleod-home
NumberFields@home 0.00 Get Decics with Bounded Discriminant wu_12E10_SF161-1_Idx3_Grp56346of59290_0 02:49:55 (02:49:07) 10/22/2011 6:45:11 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_68f1b20b-d6e7-49ba-a0cf-9cf04ad50180_201110220940_0 00:38:57 (00:38:43) 10/22/2011 5:58:26 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
yafu 0.00 YAFU yafu_C91_1319246730_187_0 00:00:13 (00:00:10) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_505bb5d5-1214-4754-a23d-391c0231333e_201110220940_0 00:42:37 (00:42:26) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
EDGeS@Home 0.00 ISDEP, fusion research application wu_3_77ddc7aa-c333-46ce-9cee-63a2a8dea480_201110220940_0 00:30:18 (00:30:07) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NumberFields@home 0.00 Get Decics with Bounded Discriminant wu_12E10_SF161-1_Idx3_Grp56442of59290_0 01:06:48 (01:06:32) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
CAS@home 0.00 Short-Cut Threading wu_1310899542_1138299_0 00:29:25 (00:29:05) 10/22/2011 5:56:47 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
Docking 6.23 Charmm 34a2 1hvk1hsg_mod0014crossdockinghiv1_9792_46421_0 03:51:35 (03:50:03) 10/22/2011 10:01:17 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
SZTAKI Desktop Grid 2.06 NumSys Search dbbb0b60-d41c-41ea-8e5f-d1777c9dfd8b_409cd187-5caf-4411-9c37-f76d646ee590_253277_1 00:00:25 (00:00:16) 10/22/2011 7:21:45 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NFS@Home 1.09 16e Lattice Sieve S2m1061b_432861_2 00:58:26 (00:57:57) 10/22/2011 9:16:31 AM Ready to report jmcleod-home
yoyo@home 445.01 Muon muon_111021134622_18_0 03:28:09 (03:27:05) 10/22/2011 12:07:23 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
Milkyway@home 0.88 MilkyWay@Home ps_separation_82_2s_mix3_1_4153993_0 03:07:41 (03:05:47) 10/22/2011 12:24:13 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
ibercivis 0.06 Search for wilson primes Mr.Wilson_22_07_03_09_359556987_2620824077_1 00:53:52 (00:53:08) 10/22/2011 3:04:28 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home
NFS@Home 1.09 16e Lattice Sieve S2m1061b_459037_1 01:12:45 (01:12:07) 10/22/2011 3:13:22 PM Ready to report jmcleod-home

#3
Beta Testing / Re: BT 1.24
October 21, 2011, 10:21:31 PM
I have one computer for which BT is reporting all tasks as state "new" and no color highlighting.  Information such as % complete is correct (and updating for those projects that are running).  I thought it might be the large number of tasks that was the problem.  I reported most of the reportable ones and that did NOT fix the problem.  BT does work correctly for a few minutes before it starts doing this. 

The BOINC is 6.13.8 on a remote computer.
#4
Beta Testing / Re: BT 96
January 17, 2011, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: fred on January 17, 2011, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on January 17, 2011, 05:27:51 PM
New messages prompt won't go away.  If I visit the messages page, all of the messages should be marked as "not new".  BOINC Tasks keeps flipping to the foreground (yuck, please do NOT do this as it takes the keyboard away from whatever I am doing) - this may be related to the new messages problem.
I store the last received message time. When a message with a later time stamp appears the icon message should popup.
But sometimes the client keeps refreshing the received time.
But when does BT comes to the foreground.
1) When the Window is open but not on the foreground.
2) Minimized.
3) Hidden in the taskbar.
1)  When the Window is open but not in the foreground. 

Not certain about #2 or #3.
#5
Beta Testing / Re: BT 96
January 17, 2011, 05:27:51 PM
New messages prompt won't go away.  If I visit the messages page, all of the messages should be marked as "not new".  BOINC Tasks keeps flipping to the foreground (yuck, please do NOT do this as it takes the keyboard away from whatever I am doing) - this may be related to the new messages problem.

NOTE that at the moment, I cannot use 0.97 as I get a fatal error with the language file.
#6
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.97
January 17, 2011, 05:24:51 PM
I am getting the following error on Windows 7 64 bit.

Fatal error in language file:  C:\Program files\eFMer\BOINCTasks\lang\BOINCTasks_ENU.btlang
Look in c:\Program Files\eFMerBOINCTasks\lang\BOINCTasks_ENU_error.txt for more details.

The referenced file does not exist.

#7
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.91
November 29, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: fred on November 29, 2010, 05:59:53 PM
Quote from: John McLeod VII on November 29, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
I have a Windows 7 64 bit computer on which BT 0.91 has entered a continuous loop of die, restart.  The only way to stop this was to reboot the computer.  I was in the process of adding computers when it happened.

First, a program should not just die.  Second, it should not enter a forever loop trying to restart.
It will stop trying after a couple (10) of times, this was added in V 0.91 to prevent these kind of loops.
I'm interested in the dump files. And what you where doing exactly.
This sounds like a serious problem, but should be easy to detect.
If you can PM me you email, I will email them tomorrow.  I was adding computers, and when the program switched to the tasks view, it blew up.  BTW, it was many more than 10 crash and restarts.
#8
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.91
November 29, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
I have a Windows 7 64 bit computer on which BT 0.91 has entered a continuous loop of die, restart.  The only way to stop this was to reboot the computer.  I was in the process of adding computers when it happened.

First, a program should not just die.  Second, it should not enter a forever loop trying to restart.
#9
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.84
November 06, 2010, 11:51:47 PM
Quote from: glennaxl on November 06, 2010, 11:01:00 PM
Computer name sorting is incorrect.

If you have numbers in name, "10" is sorted as after "1".

eg
(computers tab):
1-pc
10-pc
2-pc
3-pc
4-pc

(sidebar computer selection):
10-pc
1-pc
2-pc
3-pc


Can it be sorted like "10" is after "9" and so on?
The sort should be a string sort.  Attempting to find the numbers and sort on that is going to be problematic.

If you want it to sort correctly, try naming the computers:

01-pc
02-pc
...
10-pc
#10
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.84
November 03, 2010, 11:09:28 AM
I have been having trouble with 2 major problems recently.

1)  BT 0.84 and a few previous versions occasionally post an Öut of Memory" warning.  Several of these are posted and the program then crashes.
2)  Random crashes.

I am willing to try to help debug the problem.
#11
Beta Testing / Re: BT 0.79
October 14, 2010, 02:32:26 AM
Quote from: fred on October 13, 2010, 02:51:57 PM
Quote from: Pepo on October 13, 2010, 09:25:59 AM
Displayed lines with tasks, projects, messages, history etc. are too tight vertically - a couple of characters' pixels below the base font line are overwritten by the adjacent line - characters like "j/i", "y/v", "g/q/o/p", "_/ ", ";/:", ",/.", "Q/O" are hard (or impossible) to distinguish between...
Fixed in V 0.80. Had a nice example, but the example as often, was a bit off. Was a bit more complicated.
Now the text is more readable ::).

I will release a new version A.S.A.P. as this is a more serious problem.

The correct calculation is m-height + ascender + descender + leading.  (from memory, I wrote part of a typography program once upon a time).
#12
Wish List / Re: Debts columns
August 12, 2010, 03:20:08 PM
Quote from: fred on August 07, 2010, 08:58:43 AM
Quote from: Pepo on August 06, 2010, 08:40:47 PM
I agree.  But the Tasks view sure is getting crowded on the X axis.  Thanks be to Bill Gates for tooltips & slider bars :)

Speaking of which Fred, have you investigated mouse shortcuts for show/hide columns (similar to MS Excel)?  Ditto dragging columns to a new location.  I'm not sure if your tabular format lends itself to this as VisualBasic does.  But the current Extra>BoincTask Settings>Tasks GUI is pretty clunky by today's standards (no offense intended) ;D
It's all in the programming, it's possible to do whatever I like it to do, but most simple things involve a couple off 100++ lines of code. And time.
But maybe now it's time to finally do it.
??

Most grid controls have this built in as a behavioral setting.
#13
Wish List / Re: Column for "Uncheckpointed CPU time"
August 12, 2010, 03:16:22 PM
I was after a two step warning.

Yellow meaning > 2 * "write to disk at most"

and

Red meaning > 1 hour (or possibly user specified).
#14
Quote from: Pepo on July 27, 2010, 08:47:14 AM
Quote from: fred on July 26, 2010, 07:44:36 AM
Quote from: tlsi2000 on July 25, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
2)
Item - Set Task to be *Waiting To Run*
Would it be possible to add the ability to set a task into the *Waiting To Run* state (without actually starting it) ?

Reason -  Sometimes is is nice to clear out odd tasks that need to be processed before the others currently in the *Ready To Start* status.  I like to do this to clear out short-processes, or ones that are 'older' (SETI-dated).  Currently, I do this my suspending all the others, then suspending a running task (hence, starting the one that I want to start), and them resetting all of them back to un-suspended, then doing fix-ups on those that should be running, etc.  It is a painful process that could be eliminated by being able to set a task higher up in the queue by setting it to the *Waiting To Run* state.

2) Don't think that's possible.
Yet another thing that would have to be implemented in the BOINC client.

See my ancient proposals on BOINC_dev mailing list and before on BOINC dev message boards.
Attempting to force BOINC to run a particular task now is usually, although not quite always, a bad idea.  The only time that I have seen this to be needed is with new projects that have the fpops_est wrong.  On the second+ computers to start work, I will force it by suspending everything else for a while.  I think this points out the need for a different twist in the BOINC CPU scheduler.  The twist I would like to see added to the BOINC scheduler is to run the first task from a new project at medium priority.
#15
Wish List / Notices tab?
August 06, 2010, 06:08:39 PM
The new BOINC Manager is adding a notices tab (and removing the messages tab (grumble)).

This looks like it might contain useful information.  Any thoughts about adding this?