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No BOINC/Project activity... closed/exited - then...

After I made the .bat file (in past without 'pause'), a command prompt window opened and a client was started - and I could connect the 2nd client with BoincTasks.
But, IIRC, the localhost (1st client) couldn't connect with BoincTasks.


This worked just if I made a new folder outside from the BOINC folders. (*1)
As I made it to the BOINC folder ...\ProgramData\... there it didn't worked, nothing in the BOINC2 folder.

I use an user account (not admin account), but executed the .bat file with admin PIN.


(*1)
In the BOINC2 folder is:
notices (folder)
all_projects_list.xml
cc_config.xml (with <allow_multiple_clients>1...)
client_state.xml
client_state_prev.xml
coproc_info.xml
daily_xfer_history.xml
gui_rpc_auth.cfg
stderrgpudetect.txt
stdoutgpudetect.txt
time_stats_log


After I closed/exited the command prompt window with the running 2nd client - I made a reboot - and since then BoincTasks can connect to the (1st) localhost client, but not to the (2nd) localhost2 client.

I have no idea why it don't work.


I saw that a (localhost2) client started, so I don't need to do your suggestion?

Or 'pause' in .bat or execution in command prompt window do something different?


Thanks.

I followed the instruction here: http://efmer.com/forum/index.php?topic=856.0

On a Windows XP x86 PC it worked in past.

Now an other PC with Windows 8.1 x64 it don't work.

From the 'log':
BoincTasks version: 1.67
Language ---- User: 1031 (DEU), System: 1031 (DEU), Selected: 1033 (ENU) Used: 1033 (ENU)
Maximum number of computers: Unlimited
Computers ---- xxxxxxxx , IP: localhost2
Computers ---- xxxxxxxx , IP: localhost
Start BOINC client ---- The BOINC client started OK
Connect ---- Connected to: Host: xxxxxxxx, IP: localhost, Port: 31416, BOINC Version: 7.6.22
Logging ---- Start debug mode
Connect, init ---- Host: xxxxxxxx, IP: localhost2, Port: 31426, connection error


What's different between XP and 8.1?

As I installed BOINC v7.6.22, there was during installation something like 'allow BOINC access to folder' or something...
IIRC, this wasn't happen on the XP PC, with an older BOINC version (for 2+ years in past).

Now on the 8.1 PC I need to allow someone the access to the BOINC2 folder?

It's important where the BOINC2 folder is?
Maybe it must be in the C:\ProgramData\ folder?

Maybe I must adjust the Windows Firewwall?
Open/allow a port?

It's important how I adjusted the Windows Firewall?
I can chose 'home' and 'guest/public' network.
Which I must chose normally, and/or if I want a 2nd BOINC client?


Thanks.

I found the thread in NC: SetiPerformance 1.8 + Added apps from Lunatics v0.41
That's with very old apps.

BilBg's last post was at 5 Jun 2015 (~ 2 months ago).
His PCs had the last time at 2 Jun 2015 contact to the SETI server.
I guess he have vacation, or left SETI.

He added also the AP apps (and an AP WU - I guess - otherwise this wouldn't work ).
I have no idea which AP WU would be OK...

There is no hurry... - if you like and you have time - it would be super if you could add all (SETI and AP) apps of v0.43b.

I guess the new PC is finished in around one week (I need to wait that I get a new Windows OS DVD - RMA - the DVD which I got was not bootable )...

Thanks.

[b]

I added the cuda42 app for to make a speed test (cuda50 vs. cuda42) on my NV GT730. And it worked.
The cuda50 app is faster.
This tool, and the one WU, is OK for to make a speed comparison test?

I wanted to add the Intel iGPU app, but it worked not.
I couldn't.

Maybe for other which have less experiences than me, and for me, maybe you could add all apps of Lunatics Installer v0.43b?

SETI@home : Message boards : Number crunching : Optimised Applications and Other Binaries - refresh: Windows Installer v0.43b

Currently I prepare a new PC build with four 'AMD Radeon Fury X' VGA cards.
If I compare with the HD7970 (3 WUs/GPU) then maybe on the 'Fury X' 6 WUs/GPU would be possible...
It would be nice if I could test it with your great tool how much simultaneously WUs give highest performance.

Thanks.

I would like to uninstall BoincTasks (v1.67) completely, because I would like to start again from scratch new.

I have Win8.1 x64.

I made over the Windows/Software the uninstall.
Manually I deleted the folder where it was installed (IIRC, there was just the config.xml file in it).

OK, reboot of the PC.

Installation of BoincTasks again.
But, all user changes were again set, like it was before (color, lines and so on...).

Which folder/file/entry I need to delete, that BoincTasks start with default settings again new (uninstall/install and default settings)?

Thanks.

Finally I made the test with the tool:

NV GT730 (PCIe 2.0 x1 speed)

------------------------------------
Starting automatic test: (x41zc_cuda50)
21 June 2015 - 14:33:18 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 749, average time on device: 749 Seconds (12 Minutes, 29 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 June 2015 - 14:45:53 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 2, average time / count: 1326, average time on device: 663 Seconds (11 Minutes, 3 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 June 2015 - 15:08:03 Start, devices: 1, device count: 3 (0.33)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 3, average time / count: 1967, average time on device: 655 Seconds (10 Minutes, 55 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 June 2015 - 15:40:57 Start, devices: 1, device count: 4 (0.25)
21 June 2015 - 16:00:20 ERROR: Device: 0, Count: 0, finished with an error, check stderr.txt .
21 June 2015 - 16:00:20 ERROR: Device: 0, Count: 1, finished with an error, check stderr.txt .
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 4, average time / count: 1530, average time on device: 382 Seconds (6 Minutes, 22 Seconds)
Aborted, detected an error, results may be invalid.
------------------------------------

Does this mean that 3 (0.33) WUs/GPU is the fastest and best solution?


Then I tested with CPU WUs, but ...
------------------------------------
Starting automatic test: (x41zc_cuda50)
21 June 2015 - 16:22:12 Start, devices: 1, device count: 1 (1.00)
21 June 2015 - 16:22:12 Start, CPU count: 4
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Results:
Device: 0, device count: 1, average time / count: 732, average time on device: 732 Seconds (12 Minutes, 12 Seconds)
Next :---------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 June 2015 - 16:34:30 Start, devices: 1, device count: 2 (0.50)
21 June 2015 - 16:34:30 Start, CPU count: 4
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
SYTEM ERROR: Please report this in: Device: 15, Device count 39
------------------------------------

(strange, with CPU WUs the GPU was/is faster?)

The progress bar was long time at ~98% and nothing happened.
So I aborted this test.

What does this mean, that this test with CPU WUs didn't worked on my system?

Intel Celeron CPU J1900 (Quad-Core, up to SSE4.2, incl. Intel iGPU) + NV GT730, Win8.1 x64.

Thanks.

(...)
Download SETI Performance version 1.8
(...)

The URL don't work ...
Where I could download 'Seti Performance'?

Thanks.

I always used (checked in settings) 'Adjust time to BOINC client run time'.
'Everything was fine'.
Example: tab 'Messages' column 'Time' the hours, minutes, seconds are shown.
At other places it's the same.

I unchecked it because of testing ...
This above mentioned changed.
At the above mentioned place in tab 'Messages' column 'Time' the hours + minutes are shown, the seconds not.

I checked again 'Adjust time to BOINC client run time'.
But the seconds didn't come back. Everthing look like it's unchecked.

Is this a BUG?

- - - - - - - - - -

It's possible to add an 'extended' regulator function to BoincTasks, like following?

For example:

<regulator>
      <project_prefs_change_function_en_/_disable>         1   </project_prefs_change_function_en_/_disable>
      <min_work_cpu_days                  1   </min_work_cpu_days>
      <min_work_gpu_days>                  1    </min_work_gpu_days>
      <min_work_cpu_reached_project_prefs_change_en_/_disable>   1   </min_work_cpu_reached_project_prefs_change_en_/_disable>
      <min_work_gpu_reached_project_prefs_change_en_/_disable>   1   </min_work_gpu_reached_project_prefs_change_en_/_disable>
      <max_work_cpu_days>                  10   </max_work_cpu_days>
      <max_work_gpu_days>                  10   </max_work_gpu_days>
      <project_url_for_prefs_change>   http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/    <project_url_for_prefs_change>
      <email_in_account>               blabla         </email_in_account>
      <pin_for_account>               blabla         </pin_for_account>
</regulator>

[1 for enabled, 0 for disabled]

And in BoincTasks menu the user see an overview where he can set the apps:
Project: SETI@home
Run apps:   x-SETI Enhanced x-SETIv7 x-APv6 x-APv7
Other apps:   x-Yes x-No

[user can un-/check there where the x stand for]
Or, maybe instead of here also in the config.xml file.

Later if everything is set,
BoincTasks connect the project server and change the project prefs automatically if <min_work_*pu_days> are reached.
BoincTasks connect the project server and change the project prefs automatically if <max_work_*pu_days> are reached.


Finally this way:
Tasks for 10 days in BoincTasks and project prefs:

Run only the selected applications   SETI@home Enhanced: no
               SETI@home v7: no
               AstroPulse v6: no
               AstroPulse v7: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?   no

Tasks for 1 day in BoincTasks and project prefs:

Run only the selected applications   SETI@home Enhanced: no
               SETI@home v7: no
               AstroPulse v6: no
               AstroPulse v7: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?   yes



This would be possible to add to BoincTasks - that the Manager change automatically the project prefs?


Thanks.

I use 'flops' in my app_info.xml file.
This could cause this 'error' that the 'Time Left' in the 'Tasks' overview still show x4 (combined line of tasks for the Quad-CPU) (also after new downloaded project tasks)?

Maybe it would be fine to start again from scratch?
I mean, I uninstall BoincTasks and all folders & files. Install BoincTasks new (the installation will not find old files, so the Manager start at 'default').
Maybe this would help to find the 'problem'?

AFAIK, BoincTasks folder with boinctasks64.exe and the examples & html folders. After uninstall also delete this BoincTasks folder?
Is somewhere other BoincTasks related files which I should delete manually?

Thanks.

I got it, 'Projects' overview, the mouse over the blue line and CTRL + mouse click and the blue line go away.


After BilBg's hint with the 'Projects' overview, column 'Tasks' & 'Time Left' ... I saw there no entries.

I enabled/checked the 'History'.
Then I saw in the 'Projects' overview, column 'Tasks' & 'Time Left' '~correct' values.

I un-/ & checked the 'Adjust time to BOINC client run time' and saw the same result, that the 'Time Left' in the 'Tasks' overview still show x4.
Maybe BOINC need to download new project tasks, and after some time the value is correct then later?

Thanks.

I made a thread in the SETI forum: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77182.

It looks like BoincTasks never worked fine for me. 
Because I saw never values in the column 'Tasks' & 'Time Left' in the tab 'Projects' overview.

(It could be that the smilies don't work? On the top (where I can choose) just words instead of smilies.)

It was as 'checked'.
So I 'unchecked' 'Adjust time to BOINC client run time', but no change, it shows still x4 (after 'uncheck' I made a reboot of PC).

CTRL (control) is the german STRG (Steuerung), right?
What does mean 'item'.
I clicked then 'everywhere', and the blue line stay there.
Just if I do a reboot of PC the blue line is away.

Thanks.

Currently I let run BOINC Client v7.4.42 with BoincTasks v1.67 (on Win8.1 x64).

It's not really related for this combi, it was in past with other combis also.

Currently Intel Quad-Core-CPU with iGPU (so 4x CPU and 1x GPU tasks).

In prefs set WUs for 5 days (and this value of tasks are in BOINC).

If I look in BoincTasks tab 'Tasks' the combined tasks, for the GPU the time how long this tasks will lasts is correct (5 days).
If I look to the combined tasks for the CPU it's shown it will last 20 days - which is wrong (5 days x 4 CPU-threads = 20 days).

(In past with a Duo-CPU it was shown 10 days - by downloaded 5 days (5 days x 2 CPU-threads = 10 days).)


BoincTasks tab 'Projects'.
If I check a project and press e.g. 'update'.
I can't uncheck this project again, I mean it's possible that no project is checked/marked again (to get away the blue line)?


Because of make BoincTasks more public ...
BOINC have the slots folder for the project tasks.
There the stderr.txt file is saved.
How about? -> BoincTasks detect that a new project task is started, a new stderr.txt file was created, automatically BoincTasks write in this file on the top something like: 'Managed (or 'Supported') by eFMer BoincTasks v1.67 - more infos @ URL'.


Thanks.

BoincTasks & Priority run on Win8.1 x64?

BTW, BoincTasks run fine with stock BOINC Client v7.4.36_x64?

Thanks.

But it's possible to unselect the 'blue' projects, so that the regular color will be shown again?
I have for example for 'no new tasks' projects yellow, and everythink OK projects I have green.


I would like to know how I could adjust BoincTasks.
Maybe this is helpful for other users also.


I opened the examples folder and opened the file config.xml (entries inter alia):

<config>
   <refresh>
      <auto_cheat>   3600   </auto_cheat>
      <refresh>   4000   </refresh>
      <refresh_asap>   400   </refresh_asap>   
   </refresh>

   <options>
      <no_cleanup>   1   </no_cleanup>
   </options>
(...)
   <seti>
      <vlar>   suspend   </vlar>   <!-- suspend abort nothing-->
   </seti>

What does mean: <no_cleanup> (possible numbers, 1=on, 0=off)?

<vlar> means just x.vlar GPU tasks?


A correct config.xml could look like the following (Intel Core2 Duo E7600 + GTX260)?

<config>
   <refresh>
      <downloads>1800</downloads>
      <uploads>1800</uploads>
      <refresh>1800</refresh>
      <refresh_asap>900</refresh_asap>
   </refresh>
   <regulator>
      <max_tasks>2000</max_tasks>
      <days_work_requested>10</days_work_requested>
      <cpu_cores>2</cpu_cores>
      <gpu_cores>1</gpu_cores>
      <min_days_gpu>1</min_days_gpu>
      <min_days_cpu>1</min_days_cpu>
      <days_work_requested_min>1</days_work_requested_min>
   </regulator>
</config>

This means:
Backlogged uploads/downloads will be every 30 minutes retried (<downloads>, <uploads>).
Every 30 minutes results which were uploaded will be reported (<refresh>).
Every 15 minutes results which were uploaded will be reported, but just if in the tab/overview BoincTasks/Projects there is no backwards counter for the project (<refresh_asap>)?
Or what means: 'if not busy or in a timeout period'?

<cpu_cores> means all CPU-threads in the PC?
<gpu_cores> means all GPUs installed, or all instances of GPU apps (GTX260=1, GTX760=3)?
And a dual GPU card, GTX690=2 or HD7990=2?


I added <max_event_log_lines>500</max_event_log_lines> to the cc_config.xml file. But this don't work in the above mentioned combi.
I must set in BoincTasks/Extra/BoincTasks settings/Messages '500'.
The <max_event_log_lines> in cc_config.xml file don't work with BoincTasks?


Thanks.