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Messages - Keith Myers

Fred, are you reading the forums at all?  No response yet to this bug in BoincTasks.
Just get Failed - Network error when I try repeatedly to download the latest beta 1.90 version of BoincTasks.
Here are the screenshots to show the problem.

Just updated to a an anonymous application for asteroids period_search and discovered now that BoincTasks can't see the tasks ready to start and onboard every host in the Projects tab.

The Projects view shows 0 tasks for the Asteroids project.

Before I upgraded to the anonymous app and was running the stock application 1.17, all the Asteroids period_search tasks were shown.

However in the Tasks tab, all the tasks onboard running and ready to run are shown.

The only change was to the period_search application from version 1.17 to version 0.00

So a small bug in how BT enumerates tasks in the Projects tab view.

Could you please fix the Projects view so that version numbering like 0.00 is accepted.

Thanks for the confirmation that there is nothing wrong with my BT installation or the BOINC installation of the most recent client.
Not to be I guess.
Will have to access the device locally to see what it is doing.
Questions / Unable to connect to Kindle Fire BOINC
March 13, 2022, 04:02:15 AM
I have not been able to figure out how to connect to the BOINC running on my Kindle Fire HD8 tablet.
Find Computers does not find it.
Toolbox does not find it.
Manually adding the IP address and password does not find.
Running the latest BOINC 7.18.1 APK from BOINC website.
Set allow remote connections in the Advanced menus in BOINC
Input the remote password that I use in all my hosts.
Totally unable to even find where BOINC is installed in the device so I can look at cc_config.xml or rpc_auth.cfg.
Windows is unable to find BOINC with Windows Explorer when searching the internal storage.
A Kindle File manager app cannot find anything of BOINC's installation either.
It's like it is hidden or something.
All the standard places that BOINC is supposed to be installed in Android in the DATA directory has nothing of BOINC's installation.
No mention of Kindle when searching this website. I assume I am the only one to attempt running BOINC on a Kindle Fire.
Anybody have any answers or solutions?
Questions / Re: Problems with BoincTasks-Js
March 17, 2021, 05:44:12 PM
OK, got it to work.  You have to manually edit a single computer at a time to enable the Ready button.  If you select multiple hosts in the same Edit session, the Entry button never appears, only Delete.

The Find/Add computers never worked correctly. Never remembers the password you entered.  You have to manually add a single computer at a time and then Edit that computer all by itself to get any values to stick and the host to be connected.
Questions / Re: Problems with BoincTasks-Js
March 17, 2021, 05:30:03 PM
Quote from: fred on March 17, 2021, 05:06:31 PM
Quote from: Keith Myers on March 17, 2021, 05:01:52 PM
But other than that progress, nothing else is working.  Can't get the hosts over onto to the Computers list.  Can't get rid of the error ball on the host.  Can't make any edits in any of the fields.  Can't get any of my projects to display.  No running tasks displayed.
That looks exactly as it should be.
Press on the Ready icon in the footer.

After adding computers the edit computer screen is shown, edit and press ready.
Doesn't work on the other hosts.  Editing any of the other host Password fields and hitting the Ready button does nothing.
Questions / Re: Problems with BoincTasks-Js
March 17, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
Making some progress.  It looks once I filled in the password, once again in the Edit function of the host list that BT could connect to the midget host.  Populated all the fields correctly.

So the host that has the only conventional debian install of BOINC is the one that can be connected.  All my other hosts are invisible to BT because they are installed in a non-default location.

I have no issues with the Windows 1.85 version of BT running under Wine though connecting to all my hosts and displaying all features.  Will continue using the Windows version.

Let me know of any further developments/versions that can allow connecting to hosts running in /home.
Questions / Re: Problems with BoincTasks-Js
March 17, 2021, 05:01:52 PM

Debug log
9:40:12 AM BoincTasks Js, 1.06.
9:40:12 AM System running on platform: linux ,architecture: x64.
9:40:12 AM Folder app: /home/keith.
9:40:12 AM Folder data: /home/keith/.config.
9:40:12 AM Password might be in: /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg.
9:41:25 AM .
9:41:25 AM Scan computers: Begin.
9:41:25 AM Local Ip:
9:41:25 AM Found: Name: Pipsqueek.
9:41:25 AM Found: Name: Numbskull.
9:41:25 AM Found: Name: Nano.
9:41:25 AM Found: Name: midget.
9:43:05 AM .
9:43:05 AM Scan computers: Begin.
9:43:05 AM Local Ip:
9:43:05 AM Found: Name: Pipsqueek.
9:43:05 AM Found: Name: Numbskull.
9:43:05 AM Found: Name: Nano.
9:43:05 AM Found: Name: midget.
9:44:18 AM BoincTasks Js, 1.06.
9:44:18 AM System running on platform: linux ,architecture: x64.
9:44:18 AM Folder app: /home/keith.
9:44:18 AM Folder data: /home/keith/.config.
9:44:18 AM Password might be in: /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg.
9:44:22 AM BoincTasks Js, 1.06.
9:44:22 AM System running on platform: linux ,architecture: x64.
9:44:22 AM Folder app: /home/keith.
9:44:22 AM Folder data: /home/keith/.config.
9:44:22 AM Password might be in: /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg.
9:44:25 AM BoincTasks Js, 1.06.
9:44:25 AM System running on platform: linux ,architecture: x64.
9:44:25 AM Folder app: /home/keith.
9:44:25 AM Folder data: /home/keith/.config.
9:44:25 AM Password might be in: /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg.

It would never do anything after the Find computers has scanned and found the computers.  I clicked all the hosts and clicked the add button but nothing happened.

Then I went back to the menu and hit the Add button and the computers made it into the list with the same amount of Undefined hosts.

Then the host list started doing its recycling thing from top to bottom.  But this time I was able to select the individual Undefined hosts and the Delete entry worked this time and I was able to clear them from the list.

But other than that progress, nothing else is working.  Can't get the hosts over onto to the Computers list.  Can't get rid of the error ball on the host.  Can't make any edits in any of the fields.  Can't get any of my projects to display.  No running tasks displayed.
Questions / Problems with BoincTasks-Js
March 15, 2021, 01:47:06 AM
Having no luck with the deb BoincTasks-Js application.  Nothing seems to work.  I add Computers by Find >> Add Computers and checkmarking  them.

But only the IP, Computer and Port fields ever populate.

I can't edit any of the added Computer fields to change the name.  If you manually add a computer entry, it just comes up as Undefined.  Trying to Delete the unwanted computer host entries just makes the computer list constantly flip back and forth from top to bottom.

Not sure what the GRP field is for or what it is defined as either.

Also, what is the cycling dots on bottom left of the status bar about.  I'm guessing it might be an indicator of the BT app handshaking with the hosts.  And mine just continuously cycles from 1 to 8 dots.

The Computers list window just has a big red, crossed out error dot.

This app is definitely not ready for prime time.
Linux and Mac / Re: Boinctasks on Linux
August 15, 2018, 03:14:39 AM
Have BT installed in Ubuntu 18.04.  Program up and running and all hosts connected.  But no projects, task, messages or history in the window for any host. Status bar says updating every two seconds as usual. 0 tasks. :'(
Thanks for the confirmation about how BoincTasks implements the task limit via NNT.  That is what we suspected.  I also would have thought that an obvious "backup" file of the original config.xml configuration file shouldn't have been able to affect anything.  I wonder where the original file went.  I certainly had no conscious effect on it as I didn't even know the directory or files existed until I was told to go look for it.  Chalk it up to mysterious consequences.  I have had this issue for over 6 months and not one of the experts in the Number Crunching forum ever found anything wrong with my settings on any of my computers.  They had given up trying to determine why my systems never downloaded anything other than in small amounts.  They just said I was under the influence of bad "juju" or whatever and I was an easy butt of a joke.  All I know is that as soon as that file was deleted all my systems got huge downloads that filled me back in up in just a couple of requests instead of the usual hours worth of dribbles.

Consider the problem resolved but not understood.  Thanks.
Hi Fred, I guess I somehow didn't explain things clearly to you.  I have no issues getting my maximum allowed work based on my hardware. That is 100 tasks per CPU and 100 tasks per GPU.  What I have had issues with is the quantity of tasks per download request received. I never received more than 22 tasks per request on any machine with more typical downloads falling in the 10-14 task per download.  That is even with 0 tasks in the caches because they had already been processed on Tuesday during the long outages.  Everyone else would get hundreds of tasks per download after the project comes back online after Tuesday and would fill their caches with only a couple of server scheduling requests.  I would get only 10 tasks and would take easily over an hour to rebuild my caches on each machine.

There are literally dozens of us rescheduling and not having any issues getting work when it is available.  That is not the problem.  The problem came from the config.xml.old file in the BoincTasks directory.  What we needed to find out is how BoincTasks implements the max task limit.  It seems you are saying that it sets No New Tasks via the client?  Would that have been reflected in the Manager in the Projects tab?  Wouldn't that have written the NNT setting into the log?  I never saw either of those occur unless I myself set NNT.

I have resolved my problem by deleting the config.xml.old file and the config.editor.xml file.  No other changes to the client, Manager or BoincTasks made and immediately my next request for work got me 149 tasks and the following one got 54 tasks.  I was simply asking how the .old file was causing the issues since it really wasn't the config.xml file like the file in the /Examples directory.
This going to be a lengthy post. I have been fighting limited downloads for at least 6 months on the Seti project.  I have dozens of dozens of posts across the Number Crunching forum with advanced and experienced members trying to help me solve my problem of limited task downloads on all of my four crunchers.  I have tried innumerable fixes and suggestions and nothing has seemed to have an effect.  The maximum download I have ever received was a 22 task download.  More common were 14 task downloads.  While all my friends were getting downloads typically in the hundreds or at minimum 50 tasks at a time, I always struggled to rebuild my cache after the regular Tuesday outage or when I have rescheduled tasks and should have filled an empty CPU cache of 100 tasks on first request.  I always only got typical downloads of 14 tasks at a time which meant it might be an hour at minimum to rebuild my caches.  On my fastest crunchers, I should have a minimum of 400 tasks on board at all times. Since I run one cruncher on the special linux app, I could be down 200 tasks in an hours time.

Finally today, one of my close forum friends found a PM conversation that had me change some settings in BoincTasks back in May.  He had me look at the eFMer directory and look for the file named config.xml which he said BoincTasks uses to limit the maximum tasks that are allowed.  The file was in the /Examples directory and has a default max task count set to 5000 on his machine.  I looked for mine and saw the same.  The file says that for it to be active it has to be placed next to the BoincTasks executable which is one directory up in level.  I looked for this file and did not find it.  However, I did find a file named config.xml.old and after opening it I discovered the max task setting set to 400 tasks.

So after posting of my find, it was suggested to delete it along with a file named config.editor.xml.  I did so and exited BoincTasks and then restarted BoincTasks.  Immediately, the linux box downloaded 150 tasks on the next request and the following request snagged 50 or so.  I thought that finally my issue had been resolved.  However, the Windows7 daily driver which hosts the actual BoincTasks program that monitors all my crunchers was still only getting 14 task downloads when it needed more than 50 to get it back to normal cache levels.  Finally I exited BoincTasks completely by rebooting the computer and the next request on the BoincTasks host computer snagged a 35 task download that completely filled back to my cache level.

So, we are wondering where and how does BoincTasks intercept the Manager - Scheduling server communications to enforce its max task limit.  It is not exposed anywhere in the Manager or Client or cc_config.xml.  And why would config.xml.old be able to effect the same changes that the proper config.xml file is supposed to do.

We are interested in how my problem occurred and why so that we might be able to help others that could be affected by my obscure and very frustrating problem.

TIA.  Keith