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Amd/Ati: ATI MOBILITY RADEON XPRESS 200 P
22 June 2009 - 20:01:06 No temperature sensor found.
Pos: 0, Temperature: 2088803480

ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series, driver version 9.6
windows xp pro sp2 x64 (AMD64)

22 June 2009 - 20:06:27 AdapterInfo: 0, AdapterIndex: 0, ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 54000

What I expected the first one does not report the temperature to the driver. Maybe because there is not separate fan for the GPU.
The second one reports ok.
I will integrate the AMD readings into the program, so it will work exactly like the NVidia one.

The only thing that is very strange... the atiadlxx.dll should be on the 32 bit system and atiadlxy.dll should be on the 64 bit system.
But they both seem to use the atiadlxx.dll (32 bit version).
Can you check both files. On which system they are.

Here's what I see for my card.

AMD ATI:
AMD test loggingTry to load Library: atiadlxx.dll
Dll loaded
NULL != ADL_Adapter_NumberOfAdapters_Get
Number of adapters: 2
NULL != ADL_Adapter_AdapterInfo_Get
AdapterActive: 0
Amd/Ati: found 1 devices
Amd/Ati: ATI Radeon X1200 Series  P
22 June 2009 - 10:02:30 AdapterInfo: 0, AdapterIndex: 0, ATI Radeon X1200 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 0

It may be that there is no sensor in this chip try the TThrottle_1_6_2_4_3.zip version to see if the value is valid.

There is very little or no info on the GPU in this log...
You can only add links to pictures. Otherwise my board space is very soon..... gone.

This one checks if the temperature is valid.
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/test/TThrottle_1_6_2_4_3.zip

I updated just now to V1.62, and the TLS option was there. I can take another screenshot of the program if you want.

http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=41.0 Read this first.
And if you still have problems the mail log would be nice.

The version of the mailer is V1.1

Yes but why do I see 1.60 in the dialog? Did you check TLS?

these are the logs:

22 June 2009 - 16:49:08 AdapterInfo: 0, AdapterIndex: 0, ATI MOBILITY RADEON XPRESS 200
Pos: 0, Temperature: 2088803480


22 June 2009 - 16:55:54 AdapterInfo: 0, AdapterIndex: 0, ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 54000

As the temperature is in millidegrees , the second with 54C could be correct. But we need some more computers to test this

I've seen than the driver is installed on windows\system32\drivers (x86 & x64 versions)

does it means that the driver is 32bits (for both versions)??

please correct me if I'm wrong, and now I can not remember how could I saw it.

I don't know why they didn't changed the name to \driver64, probably something to do with compatibility.
The driver is 64 bit.. otherwise it will not install.

What happens; The driver is copied into that directory. Next the installer starts the real installer (windows driver installer) WdfCoInstaller01007.dll, that actually installs the driver. Does all the installation, registry things etc

I sent a test email, which worked. When I try to send the logfile, it gives me this error message:

"(M91) tthrottle_mailer.exe not running?"

To clarify, I use gmail for the email system, and I put in my settings according to what was in the FAQ.

I've tested with last stable versions and really works, have you uninstalled
or deleted the whole Program files\efmer\TThottle directory before install
the new version (1.62 really works fine) ?? because I've seen that in some
previous versions and previous betas too, becuase of the locations of the
tthrottle_mail(64).exe program.

Look at the version number in the dialog

Hi Fred,

New: A progress bar, in the first tab, now indicates the percentage of work done on the computer.

please, explain a little.

is it the CPU fraction running for BOINC??

it really gives you a good visual idea of the running processes,
could be added another one parallel to itself for the % of GPU running for BOINC??

It is the total of everything running.
When you look at Rules -> Show running Processes... It is everything added up (so all processes on all cores), then divided by the number of cores.
So everything, including BOINC.

It is very hard (if not impossible) to see what the GPU is doing. The temperature is the only indication.

Hi Fred,

I hope that the temperature read won't be real  
GPU & PC melt, finger burnt and eyes blind    

Yes, but we are one step further... The card detection works, this looks like a small problem.
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/test/TThrottle_1_6_2_4_2.zip Small Indeed

This doesn't look right to me. Is it a problem with the app or a problem with my configuration?

Try installing V 1.62 it has a completely new Email program, thats adds TLS support. It looks the other side wants TLS.

A new one with more info for me.
http://www.efmer.eu/download/boinc/test/TThrottle_1_6_2_4_1.zip

Hi,

I was wondering how easy it would be to add a throttling history and/or CPU usage to your graph.  The only problem I could see is the scale doesn't fit with the existing range and would squish the temperature data (mine tends to stay at 40-60 on the Y axis - 40-100 would lose resolution for the temps).  Maybe the throttle % could be at 1/2 scale?  Or a separate window along the bottom?

Another thing - could you make the exit button active - it is greyed out on my machine (XP 64 SP3 running 64 bit version) and I have to kill the process to stop it.

Bob

I could do that, add a throttle graph. I added it to the todo list.

Killing a process is never a good idea, because you never know what is is doing.... I this case better use exit at the taskbar. (right button over the icon, select exit)
Killing TThrottle may result in frozen BOINC tasks.

[if gpu temperature < 58 email reset 68]

For most users the rule composer will be enough. But for those who want everything , here is some more detailed information.

Some specials are execute1 , execute2, execute3. What they do is start a batch file execute1.bat, execute2.bat or execute3.bat.
The batch file must be located in the same directory a TThrottle.exe.

Can I change the annoying alarm sound? Sure, find another sound and place it in the same directory as TThrottle.exe, next rename it to alarm.wav.

Why a system reboot? Sometimes a BOINC project program crashes. One of the ways to see this is to watch for the CPU or GPU temperature.

I personally use this rule on one of my computers:

if gpu temperature < 58 email reset 68
When the gpu temperature goes above 68 degrees the rule becomes active. If the gpu temperature goes below 58 degrees an E-Mail is send.

if gpu temperature < 56 reboot reset 70
When the gpu temperature goes above 70 degrees the rule becomes active. If the gpu temperature goes below 56 degrees the system reboots itself.

if cpu temperature > 90 hibernate
When the cpu temperature goes above 90 degrees the rule becomes active. The computer will go into hibernation (sleep).

if cpu temperature > 93 shutdown
When the cpu temperature goes above 93 degrees the rule becomes active. The computer will shut itself off.

if time 01:00 reboot
On a computer running GPU tasks it is sometimes a good thing to reboot your computer on a regular basis.

Long time unattended running

I sometimes want to let one of my computers run, when I'm on vacation.
To set up a simple watchdog function, I select in the computer BIOS to start when the power is switched on.
Next I plug the computer power in a timer, that shuts down the computer power at 01:00 (OFF) and connects it to the mains again at 01:01 (ON)

In TThrottle I set the rule:
if time 00:55 shutdown
This shuts the computer down before the timer switches off the main power.
If the computer for some reason hangs, it is still rebooted but not as elegantly.


Warning: a reboot or shutdown does not save any work. It just shuts down as fast as possible. And putting (or letting) BOINC in snooze mode (suspend) will also trigger this rule, when triggered on a temperature. So this if for a BOINC only machine.

The lowest setting is 1%, even if you put in less, TThrottle only goes as low as 1%.

Why? Because otherwise programs may not get enough time to run. As most programs are not tested for this, because Windows will always allow programs to run a minimum amount of time.

If a program would be stopped for some time, it may become instable, unpredictable and even crash.

And if at 1% the CPU or GPU still gets too hot  , something else is wrong..

And you can always set the automatic shutdown at the maximum temperature, so the system shuts down gracefully, in the event of overheating