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#76
Questions / Re: Doesn't seem to monitor 4 GPUs
May 14, 2022, 02:49:30 AM
The fans are at 100% from the profile I put on it and it still goes to about 85C and crashes the machine.  It's the original fans, they're working fine, but a huge amount of piping hot worryingly smelly air blasts out of it.  It's in pretty spacious air in a 25C room.  It does receive a bit of hot air from a nearby GPU, but not much.  Not sure why it's so hot.  It seems happy at 2/3rds clock and is now sitting just below 80C.
#77
Questions / Re: Doesn't seem to monitor 4 GPUs
May 14, 2022, 02:43:40 AM
I checked all 4, but they all read the same temperature.  Somehow Tthrottle was reading the same sensor from GPU-Z 4 times.

It didn't see HWInfo at all.  And I don't like this: "HWiNFO, when using the installer, the 64 bit version stops working after 12 hours."

I've taken the easy way out, I just lowered the clock speed for the offending GPU.
#78
Questions / Doesn't seem to monitor 4 GPUs
May 14, 2022, 01:36:07 AM
I have four identical GPUs on a system (not crossfired).  One is too hot, the other three are ok.  I want to use Tthrottle to slow down Boinc on the hot one only.  But Tthrottle only detects one temperature.  When I connect it to GPU-Z, it detects four identical temperatures (even though within GPU-Z there are 4 different ones).  It can't see HWInfo for some reason.  How do I throttle one card?
#79
Questions / Re: Boinctasks stuck on "updating"
February 05, 2022, 07:08:06 PM
I've shoved an SSD in when I needed to buy something anyway, but I have all these rotary disks to use up.  Even the 2TB ones are enough of a problem to make Boinctasks stick.  The trouble with small SSDs is they use up their life very quickly with some of the projects.  LHC and Rosetta using VB images, write a huge amount of data.  SSDs can only be written to 300-1000 times before they die.  It's not too bad with the lower timeouts set in Boinctasks, I'll just put up with it or adjust the timeouts some more if you can't do anything about it.
#80
Questions / Re: Boinctasks stuck on "updating"
February 04, 2022, 10:05:31 PM
They can all be slow, it just depends which ones are running vbox tasks.  And they're not "slow computers", they're just computers without SSDs.
#81
Questions / Re: Boinctasks stuck on "updating"
February 03, 2022, 08:14:16 PM
Quote from: fred on February 03, 2022, 07:34:39 AM
If a computer doesn't respond there is something wrong, not much BoincTasks can do about that.

Doesn't respond can just mean busy.  A lot of my machines are trying to run multiple VB tasks with only a rust spinner.  I don't see why Boinctasks can't ignore non-responding computers as it does eventually anyway.  Changing the timeouts to 5 seconds seems to have helped, but I often still have to wait up to 20 or 30 seconds when Boinctask's display goes blank.
#82
Questions / Re: Boinctasks stuck on "updating"
February 02, 2022, 07:45:29 PM
I'm sorry but you don't seem to understand that an old computer running Boinc on a rotary drive does not always respond!  It's busy!  I seem to have sorted it by reducing a load of options in your program - I forget what they were, timeouts etc, down to 5 seconds.  The defaults of giving a machine 30 seconds to respond, and hanging up the whole program is unrealistic.
#83
Questions / Re: Boinctasks stuck on "updating"
February 01, 2022, 10:51:32 PM
This is still causing problems.  Mainly if a disk on one computer I'm monitoring is busy - loading new Vbox tasks for example.  It doesn't happen with SSD computers.  Can you please work out why Boinctasks waits for every computer to respond before displaying the others? 
#84
I need a firewall because it's a dodgy phone I got on Ebay from China which is so full of adware I get something on the screen literally every 10 seconds.  These things eat the RAM and Boinc won't run most projects.

I've managed to root it and install AFWall+, thanks!  Seems to be working.  Not blocking Boincstats from seeing it.  Hopefully with nothing else allowed on the wifi it can't do anything annoying and RAM consuming.
#85
I've tried a couple of firewalls on my android now, noroot and netpatch, and neither of them allow local connections. My phone is using wifi, and that works fine, and the firewalls allow me to choose which apps can access the internet. But I run Boinc on the phone, which is monitored and controlled by a Windows 10 PC on my network using Boinctasks. Despite allowing Boinc on the phone access to wifi, and it can get tasks from the internet, the Windows PC cannot see it so I can't monitor or control it that way. Are there any firewalls that don't mess about with local access like this?
#86
Quote from: fred on May 05, 2021, 11:22:48 AM
Quote from: hucker on May 05, 2021, 11:14:00 AM
I'd like to try groups first.   But I can't find that setting.
Go to the Computers
Give computer a group name, left column with the selection.
Computers are sorted by computer with the same group name.
https://forum.efmer.com/index.php?topic=780.0
I put the dodgy computer and my phone into a group called "dodgy" by entering that name in their group column.  I've now got the group "all computers" showing 6 machines and "dodgy" showing 2 in the left column.  So was this just to find out if those two are the culprits?  I prefer them all to be displayed.  I'll leave the dodgy group selected and watch to see if it locks up, then switch to the good 6 and see if it still locks up.
#87
Quote from: fred on May 04, 2021, 06:33:01 AM
Quote from: hucker on May 03, 2021, 05:41:47 PM
I just wanted to know why your program gets upset when it gets no reply.
Thanks,

Try connecting this bad computer to the new BoincTasks Js.
My mobile also causes slight problems as it loses wireless a lot (crappy receiver - the router is only 1 metre away!).

I'd like to try groups first.   But I can't find that setting.
#88
Quote from: fred on May 03, 2021, 05:34:46 PM
Quote from: hucker on May 03, 2021, 05:06:54 PM
I can't understand why the whole program gets stuck waiting for one reply.  So stuck I couldn't even click it, it went grey and windows said it was unresponsive.  Surely if there's no response from one machine, it should just display the others?
I suspect this to be a low level ip transport problem, maybe a driver problem, impossible to simulate and fix.
Why not try the group solution?
Or try to fix what's wrong with the computer, that would be the preferred solution.
It's an old machine not worth spending time on.  It runs most of the time and does some crunching.  I wouldn't trust it for anything important.

I just wanted to know why your program gets upset when it gets no reply.
#89
Quote from: fred on May 03, 2021, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: hucker on May 02, 2021, 11:15:41 AM
Surely if there's no response from one machine, just display the others?
I see two options.
1) Give all the good machines a group name
That way the good and the bad are in different groups.

2) In the expert tab set a timeout of e.g. 2 seconds.
I've tried setting timeout to 2, it was 20.  But it was locking up for way longer than 20 seconds when one of the machines played up the other day.  It was more like an hour.

I can't understand why the whole program gets stuck waiting for one reply.  So stuck I couldn't even click it, it went grey and windows said it was unresponsive.  Surely if there's no response from one machine, it should just display the others?
#90
I have 8 machines attached to Boinctasks.  Itself, 6 other Windows 10 PCs, and an Android 7 phone.  One of the PCs is old and tired and often crashes or doesn't respond.  Why does this lock up Boinctasks?  The whole screen goes blank, the menus are inoperative, and task manager reports it's using an entire CPU core.  What on earth is it doing?  Surely if there's no response from one machine, just display the others?