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Started by dskrbt, January 03, 2011, 07:03:26 PM

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dskrbt

you can see in the screen shot the temp for the card(smartdoctor), but not in tthrottle
also the temps in the cpuid hardware monitor show core 0 29 degres and core 1 35
but tthrottle only show core 0 35

http://img341.imageshack.us/i/hmmmmo.png
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fred

Quote from: dskrbt on January 03, 2011, 07:03:26 PM
you can see in the screen shot the temp for the card(smartdoctor), but not in tthrottle
also the temps in the cpuid hardware monitor show core 0 29 degres and core 1 35
but tthrottle only show core 0 35

http://img341.imageshack.us/i/hmmmmo.png
First of all the temperature reading of the core sensors are not that accurate.
The most accurate one is the one reported by the external sensor.
As far as I can see they give about 40C. The core temperature should be higher by a couple of degrees.
But it's lower, that's highly suspicious, probably the core reading is a bit too low.
And the 6 C difference in temp is high, as the cores are on the same die, they should report temperatures that are close together.

Some AMD CPU's may have separate core sensors. And I'm not sure if this one has. But I don't dare to go that way, because it can easily interfere with the driver and result in something nasty.
As for the GPU, AMD doesn't provide support for some cards. TThrottle uses the Overdrive feature to read the temperature and AMD for some reason doesn't include all cards.
But as I can't see what the TThrottle log shows..

dskrbt

#2
Um do you mean this
04 January 2011 - 17:38:45 Driver installed properly. Driver Version: 2.0

Program version: 3.11 64Bit
Microsoft  (build 7600)

Language: User: 3081 ENA ,System: 1033 ENU

nvidia: found 1 logical devices
nvidia: found 1 physical devices

nvidia: GeForce 8800 GS

Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Vendor: AMD
HighestIntegerValue: 00000001 - Processor Signature: 00040FB2
Misc. info: 01020800
Feature Flags1 00002001
Feature Flags2 178BFBFF

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+                
Processor: Family: Fh, Model: 4B, Stepping: 2
Processor: Revision: BH-F2, Revision: F
Processor: Socket: AM2, Type: Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core
Processor: Max Die (Tjunction) Temperature: 70.0 °C
      The real Max Die (Tjunction) temperature is not this value
      This value is for calculating the temperature ONLY
      Max Die (Tjunction) is normally about Max Case + 5C
Processor: Max Case Temperature: 70.0 °C, Max Power: 0.0 W

Core Temperature: 30 °C, Raw Data: 4F1A20
4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e
1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,4e1a20,01ffffffffffffffff111111111111

This Processor has 2 cores and  1 temperature sensors.

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CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:3324 (3)   Slot:13   http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/   131063750.7602663148952149
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CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:3324 (3)   Slot:13   http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/   131063750.7602663148952149
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:4420 (4)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0004_007D1.dm_292
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:5036 (3)   Slot:9   http://eon.ices.utexas.edu/eon2/   1750793306_10342755
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04 January 2011 - 17:44:09 Number of matching Programs (Processes): 3
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:3324 (3)   Slot:13   http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/   131063750.7602663148952149
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:4420 (3)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0004_007D1.dm_292
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:5036 (3)   Slot:9   http://eon.ices.utexas.edu/eon2/   1750793306_10342755
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P.S. Are you Back already or has someone "swapped" fred
Cheers DskRbt
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dskrbt

you probably know this already but here goes
[edit]http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658825
The CPU temp is actually measured from a sensor embeded in motherboard socket area below the processor. Core temp is measured from a sensor embeded in the processor die itself. Core temps are the critcal ones. CPU temps are only important when you don't have access to core temps for some reason (like when cores are "unlocked") or when there is reason to suspect that the core temp sensors are calibrated poorly. the discrepancy between CPU temps and core temps. They usually vary from one another for a number of reasons but usually the variance is not more than 10 degrees
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fred

Quote from: dskrbt on January 04, 2011, 06:48:38 AM
P.S. Are you Back already or has someone "swapped" fred
Cheers DskRbt
Back  ??? I'm always back, back home, back someplace else. ;D

You can try this to get the GPU working. http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=121.0

dskrbt

soz. didn't you go walkabout across some states.

will try that link now
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Beyond

Quote from: dskrbt on January 03, 2011, 07:03:26 PM
you can see in the screen shot the temp for the card(smartdoctor), but not in tthrottle
http://img341.imageshack.us/i/hmmmmo.png
Many ASUS video cards use a proprietary temp sensor that ONLY ASUS Smartdoctor can read.  If MSI Afterburner and EVGA precision can't read it you can be pretty sure that it's one of the ASUS proprietary chips.  All of my ASUS NVidia 9600GSO cards (various models) had them.  Quite irritating, let ASUS know what you think of this practice.

dskrbt

no joy with that link. the regedit din't work,
made sure i had admin rights and ran as admin, and searched 3 times to make sure all entries were gone. but every time i reboot the entries were back in place.  i think that either smart doctor or gamerOSD are writing the values back into reg.????????
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