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#61
Questions / Some NVidia cards not being de...
Last post by Joseph Stateson - March 19, 2025, 01:29:09 PM
I have 6 P102-100 cards, these are equivalent to GTX-1080Ti, but are in the $40 USD range.
They can be force installed in Win11 as P104-100 or using an unsigned driver as P102-100.  They are  not recognized by tthrottle except using GPUz or HWinfo32

1 - GPU-z (looking at Tthrottle display)
I ran 4 instances of GPU-z and set each instance to a different GPU. Tthrottle shows 4 GPUs in the external tab but only one temperature (the first instance) was available.  Possibly there is a setting to force 4 GPUs in tthrottle.xml but I do not know how to configure it.

2 - HWinfo (looking at Tthrottle display)
HWinfo Pro shows all 4 GPU temperatures in Tthrottle but only good for 12 hours.  The temperatures matched that revealed by the nvidia-smi app.  I uninstalled Pro and put in HWinfo32 and there was a notice that not all items were uninstalled.  TThrottle's GPU2 showed 1100c using HWinfo32.  All the other temps in TThrottle were ok and matched nvidia-smi.  BT reported the 4 temperatures but put in 0c for the problem 1100c temperature.

I brought up GPU-z and set instance to the GPU2 and got the correct temperature (in Tt).  In Tthrottle, I was going to disable GPU2 in HWinfo and enable it for GPUz.  I noticed that GPU2 in HWinfo now had the correct temperature. I closed GPUz and the temperature momentarily went back to 1100c.  While looking this strange problem the temperature toggled between the correct temperature and the 1100c temp.  Eventually everything in tthrottle "external" stabilized to the correct temperatures that matched nvidia-smi.

I am guessing that the left over setting from HWinfo64 Pro caused the problem in HWinfo32.  If I had known the uninstall would not be clean I would have used REVO to do the uninstall.

It would be nice to avoid using GPUZ or HWinfo.





[edit] I think I found the problem with HWinfo32:  While I had uninstalled HWinfo64 Pro, I had failed to close it and the uninstall did not bother terminating it.  I was running both the 32 and the 64 bit version of the app at the same time.  Probably was a coincidence the problem became fixed when running GPUz.  I have since rebooted and all is working OK with HWinfo32
#62
Wish List / Re: Fix "exclusive application...
Last post by fred - March 15, 2025, 09:43:32 PM
The first is the app, you can choose it with ...
The second is a dropdown box that shows the running processes, so that's basically the same thing.
The third is filled out by BoincTasks, basically the complete programm like C:\Windows\explorer.exe
So the third line is actually used.
#63
Wish List / Re: Remember dialog box positi...
Last post by fred - March 15, 2025, 09:39:52 PM
I can't test it on Win 10 anymore and BoincTasks is compiled for Win 11.
#64
Wish List / Re: BOINC's project list often...
Last post by fred - March 15, 2025, 09:38:02 PM
Quote from: Joseph Stateson on March 15, 2025, 05:04:04 PMI posted the same question over at BOINC first and so far my question received 1300+ views here and less than 90 over at BOINC. There is clearly a BOINC problem.
You could post it on GitHub as a bug, that should get the attention of the developers.
#65
Wish List / Re: BOINC's project list often...
Last post by Joseph Stateson - March 15, 2025, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: fred on March 15, 2025, 12:33:12 AMWith some projects it's a mess.
BOINC should be able to handle this, I think this is a BOINC problem.


I posted the same question over at BOINC first and so far my question received 1300+ views here and less than 90 over at BOINC. There is clearly a BOINC problem.
#66
Wish List / Re: Remember dialog box positi...
Last post by hucker - March 15, 2025, 05:21:54 AM
Just tested, and it does remember if I go back to the same dialog immediately.  Not if it's been a day.  I guess in that time Boinctasks has crashed (it does that a lot).  Boinctasks needs to write the position now, not wait until just before exiting.

I'm on 21H2, only just noticed Windows has given up giving me updates because I refuse to buy a TPM on 10 machines just for them.  I used Rufus to bypass on the original install.  I can't be bothered going through it again.  M$ can go intercourse itself.  I gather Windows 12 will require an AI capable CPU!  "Oh but doesn't everyone use a computer less than a year old?"
#67
Wish List / Re: Fix "exclusive application...
Last post by hucker - March 15, 2025, 05:13:53 AM
Boinc's exclusive applications, I enter one thing, I don't know what to put in three fields in boinctasks.

P.S. over here SWRI is "Scottish Whisky Research Institute" !!
#68
Wish List / Re: Remember dialog box positi...
Last post by Joseph Stateson - March 15, 2025, 04:24:54 AM
This must be a windows problem. I am running 24h2 and while the popups do go originally to monitor 1. If I move the popup to monitor 2 it remembers to pop up in monitor 2.  I have to do this for every popup, but once it gets moved it remembers the same location even if BT is moved back to monitor 1.  I only tested the boinctasks and boinc setting's popups.  If you restart windows with the displays left on the screen then windows must do the restore.  It would be convenient to have the popup always be on the same monitor.

I do remember back in win10 if my monitor 2 died there were some applications that were ghosted to monitor 2 and it was a real PITA to get them to move back to monitor 1.  Currently with win11 when my monitor 2 dies (it has a problem) all the icons and apps move to monitor 1 but they will return once I unplug and plug the monitor back in.  That did not happen in 10 and on occasion the ghosted apps remained ghosted even after the monitor was fixed.  By "ghosted" I mean that you see the apps icon in the task bar of both monitors but the app does now show up anywhere when you click on its icon. 

Windows 11 reboots roughly every 4 month if left to itself.  I assume you are running 10.
#69
Wish List / Re: Fix "exclusive application...
Last post by Joseph Stateson - March 15, 2025, 03:21:55 AM
!!! Yea I missed that.  it is actually a BOINC type setting. I was looking in boinctasks.

I appears to work exactly the same way as the BOINC Manager's "Exclusive Applications" which I never use.  I had only one application that needed exclusive use of the GPU:  "DVDFab" which converted bluray disks to MP4.  With redbox and netflix no longer in the rental business I rarely use that app.
#70
Wish List / Re: Remember dialog box positi...
Last post by hucker - March 15, 2025, 01:38:03 AM
If possible can you make it remember just by finishing with the dialog box?  I have it running all the time, so probably the next time Boinctasks is closed will be a crash of Boinctasks (I see it silently restart sometimes), or me using windows shutdown or restart command, but the computer tends to run for about 6-9 months between restarts.