Testing Version 3.41

[fred]

Fixed: BOINC connection mode: When tasks get suspended and the thread count goes to 0, detect Suspended and don't add the tasks to the throttle list.
Fixed: As of V 3.2, One tasks isn't assigned to any throttling regulator at all and is running at 100%.

When you are running a Beta version: I recommend you update to this version A.S.A.P., because there is a serious bug in the older Beta versions.

[Pepo]

1 CPU + 1 GPU tasks are running. After snoozing the whole computation, the machine goes correctly silent. Just the logging:
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30 March 2011 - 00:43:56  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 2
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:8408 (3)   Slot:4   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747883356106762600_824633720832
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:12956 (3)   Slot:1   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747395894498535784_103079215104
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30 March 2011 - 01:43:21  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
Suspended: CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:8408 (0)   Slot:4   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747883356106762600_824633720832
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:12956 (3)   Slot:1   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747395894498535784_103079215104
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If the GPU task is marked as Suspended, I'd expect to see the same on CPU task(s)...

Otherwise - everything seems just fine.

[fred]

1 CPU + 1 GPU tasks are running. After snoozing the whole computation, the machine goes correctly silent. Just the logging:
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30 March 2011 - 00:43:56  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 2
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:8408 (3)   Slot:4   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747883356106762600_824633720832
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:12956 (3)   Slot:1   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747395894498535784_103079215104
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30 March 2011 - 01:43:21  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
Suspended: CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:8408 (0)   Slot:4   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747883356106762600_824633720832
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:12956 (3)   Slot:1   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747395894498535784_103079215104
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If the GPU task is marked as Suspended, I'd expect to see the same on CPU task(s)...

Otherwise - everything seems just fine.

For some reasons, the GPU tasks are still handled differently.
The GPU task is gone, as there are 0 threads running, but the CPU task is still there, 3 threads.

[Pepo]

If the GPU task is marked as Suspended, I'd expect to see the same on CPU task(s)...

For some reasons, the GPU tasks are still handled differently.
The GPU task is gone, as there are 0 threads running, but the CPU task is still there, 3 threads.

Indeed.
When I snooze just GPU computing, then TTh will completely discard GPU tasks from the list, CPU tasks are not differentiated from a running state.
When I snooze all computing, then a the-same-way not-anymore-existing GPU task (0 processes 0 threads) is just marked as Suspended, whereas suspended CPU tasks still look the same. Why are the GPU tasks still on-list?

Maybe if TTh is aware of which existing processes belong to suspended tasks (while being connected to BOINC client), then it could mark them as such?
If TTh is connected to the client, would it notice any runaway tasks' processes, which is the client not (anymore) aware of? I believe that in the standalone mode the tasks are being noticed. (Maybe this could be noticed e.g. by killing the client, if TTh would react sooner than after the tasks' 30 second timeout? Or running some task in stand-alone mode?)

[fred]

Indeed.
When I snooze just GPU computing, then TTh will completely discard GPU tasks from the list, CPU tasks are not differentiated from a running state.
When I snooze all computing, then a the-same-way not-anymore-existing GPU task (0 processes 0 threads) is just marked as Suspended, whereas suspended CPU tasks still look the same. Why are the GPU tasks still on-list?

Maybe if TTh is aware of which existing processes belong to suspended tasks (while being connected to BOINC client), then it could mark them as such?
If TTh is connected to the client, would it notice any runaway tasks' processes, which is the client not (anymore) aware of? I believe that in the standalone mode the tasks are being noticed. (Maybe this could be noticed e.g. by killing the client, if TTh would react sooner than after the tasks' 30 second timeout? Or running some task in stand-alone mode?)

Processes are marked suspended when there are 0 threads. When there are thread, something is still going on. But as BOINC has several snooze states it's sometimes hard to predict what will happen. But it works and that's what counts.

Only tasks that the clients sees, that are running in BoincTasks are throttled.
So runaway tasks are not throttled.
Disabling the BOINC client mode is the only option in this case. Or setting up a rule at a higher threshold. Or setting an alarm.

[Beyond]

Have v3.41 on 11 machines and it's running very well.  Seems to use quite a bit lees CPU than previous versions.  Thanks!

[jave200372]

I'd love to try out v3.41 except I can't seem to find it on the site?  All I get is the message "At this moment there is no beta version. " when I click on the "Download beta version" link on the Download page... 

[Pepo]

I'd love to try out v3.41 except I can't seem to find it on the site?  All I get is the message "At this moment there is no beta version. " when I click on the "Download beta version" link on the Download page... 

No idea Maybe I'm allowed to access the page and you are not? 
Or you see some other cached version of the Beta download page?
Anyway,

Beta test version
For testing only. Download BoincTasks beta 32/64 Bit

points to

eFMer BoincTasks Beta Version

[.....]

BoincTasks 1.00 Beta:
Download site 1: Europe
Download site 2: North America

Go try again...

[Beyond]

Peter, he's talking about TThrottle, not BoincTasks.  It's early   
There doesn't seem to be a link to 3.41 anymore.  Don't know why?


Edit:  jave200372, as Peter says below, it's still on the server.  Use this link:

http://www.efmer.eu//download/boinc/tthrottle/unified/setup_32_64_tthrottle_3_4_1.exe

[Pepo]

Peter, he's talking about TThrottle, not BoincTasks.  It's early 

I can not blame even the daytime (it was already pretty afternoon) - but I'm somehow tired and inattentive today... True, a very different application...

There doesn't seem to be a link to 3.41 anymore.  Don't know why?
jave200372, send me a PM with your e-mail address & I'll send the 3.41 file to you.

I haven't noticed it for some time already - as there are nowhere links to download areas, I'm always taking the last download link (e.g. look for "TThrottle" on my chrome://downloads page ( does not work correctly as a direct link?), take the most recent TTh's link) and just overwrite the digits, like ".../tthrottle_3_4_1.exe". Fortunately Fred does keep the whole history.

[fred]

  Forgot to update the download page. Fixed.
The update function works.
You may need to refresh the download page, normally with F5.

[jave200372]

Forgot to update the download page. Fixed.
The update function works.
You may need to refresh the download page, normally with F5.

I have downloaded v3.41 from the main download link.  Thanks! 

[wicked]

1 CPU + 1 GPU tasks are running. After snoozing the whole computation, the machine goes correctly silent. Just the logging:

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30 March 2011 - 01:43:21  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 1
Suspended: CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:8408 (0)   Slot:4   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747883356106762600_824633720832
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:12956 (3)   Slot:1   http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/   collatz_2368747395894498535784_103079215104
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For some reasons, the GPU tasks are still handled differently.
The GPU task is gone, as there are 0 threads running, but the CPU task is still there, 3 threads.

I believe what you are seeing is the difference between GPU and CPU tasks suspending when it comes to the "leave applications in memory when suspended" parameter. GPU tasks are never left in memory but are always fully shutdown. (To free up any GPU memory and other resources to, for example, a resource hungry game.) CPU tasks can be left in memory (if enabled by the parameter), just waiting to be re-enabled to get going again. This happens no matter what the suspend reason of a task is.

[Pepo]

I just wanted to update one machine's 3.41 -> 3.51 (is running since 28.3., main dialog window mostly unattended but closed, the temperatures graph window constantly open) and noticed that the log window has lost its scrollbars - never seen before. The machine is not "overwhelmed with tasks", just a couple of them are usually around:

11 April 2011 - 14:41:59  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 4
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:18096 (3)   Slot:16   http://climateprediction.net/   famous_xtzq_1199_200_007100701
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15860 (4)   Child:   famous_um_6.11_windows_intelx86.exe
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15000 (3)   Slot:13   http://cpdnbeta.oerc.ox.ac.uk/   famous_v0ia_1799_200_000223519
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:17524 (4)   Child:   famous_um_6.11_windows_intelx86.exe
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:11992 (3)   Slot:2   http://www.primegrid.com/   llrCUL_83826417
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:7452 (1)   Child:   primegrid_cllr.exe
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:2736 (3)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0070_01511.dm_348
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11 April 2011 - 15:45:29  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 4
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:18096 (3)   Slot:16   http://climateprediction.net/   famous_xtzq_1199_200_007100701
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15860 (4)   Child:   famous_um_6.11_windows_intelx86.exe
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:11992 (3)   Slot:2   http://www.primegrid.com/   llrCUL_83826417
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:7452 (1)   Child:   primegrid_cllr.exe
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:2736 (3)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0070_01511.dm_348
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:21568 (3)   Slot:9   http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/   07mr11ah.23742.16018.206158430211.14.147
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11 April 2011 - 16:13:06  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 4
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15000 (3)   Slot:13   http://cpdnbeta.oerc.ox.ac.uk/   famous_v0ia_1799_200_000223519
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:17524 (4)   Child:   famous_um_6.11_windows_intelx86.exe
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:11992 (3)   Slot:2   http://www.primegrid.com/   llrCUL_83826417
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:7452 (1)   Child:   primegrid_cllr.exe
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:2736 (3)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0070_01511.dm_348
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:21568 (3)   Slot:9   http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/   07mr11ah.23742.16018.206158430211.14.147
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11 April 2011 - 16:16:09  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 2
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:2736 (3)   Slot:6   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0070_01511.dm_348
CPU:3, GPU:0, PID:1404 (5)   Slot:11   http://aqua.dwavesys.com/   fp_06apr11_bm_16_003_50_000-1_358
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11 April 2011 - 16:34:34  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 2
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:22456 (3)   Slot:10   http://www.primegrid.com/   pps_sr2sieve_15793585
CPU:3, GPU:0, PID:1404 (5)   Slot:11   http://aqua.dwavesys.com/   fp_06apr11_bm_16_003_50_000-1_358
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11 April 2011 - 17:03:25  Počet zhodných programov (procesov): 4
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15000 (3)   Slot:13   http://cpdnbeta.oerc.ox.ac.uk/   famous_v0ia_1799_200_000223519
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:17524 (4)   Child:   famous_um_6.11_windows_intelx86.exe
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:20104 (3)   Slot:5   http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/   PM0079_01751.dm_360
CPU:0, GPU:1, PID:22456 (3)   Slot:10   http://www.primegrid.com/   pps_sr2sieve_15793585
CPU:1, GPU:0, PID:15732 (3)   Slot:4   http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/   X0000074150700200609201430
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It is also not possible to jump up/down with PageUp/PageDown keys - there is simply nothing more to scroll through, just (14:41:59  - 16:34:34).

A 20 minutes later (17:03:25) a new entry appeared and the whole displayed contents became scrollable. But nothing visible from the history. I remember having seem much longer histories in TTh.

[KraftR]

Hey Fred,
Well I am simply amazed! And that is rarely said from my lips!
Out of the box (once I guessed at the settings) it worked fantastically! Ha ha!
Maybe an inline usage help - or a link to a website would help newbies like me!
Needs a display throttle? I don't need real-time updates. A 5 second refresh is good enough for me.
Now I have to figure out how to make a PayPal account to send you a few bucks!
Thanks for an excellent tool...and my hot baby thanks you as well...!!!
Smilin' KraftR

Here is my log data if it helps... Thanks again!

13 June 2011 - 10:45:32 Driver installed properly. Driver Version: 2.0

Program version: 3.41 64Bit
Microsoft  Service Pack 1 (build 7601)

Language: User: 1033 ENU ,System: 1033 ENU
Amd/Ati: found 1 devices
Amd/Ati: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 P (0-0)
13 June 2011 - 10:45:32 AdapterInfo: 0-0, Index: 0, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870
Pos: 0, Temperature: 70

Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
Vendor: INTEL
HighestIntegerValue: 0000000B - Processor Signature: 000106E5
Misc. info: 02100800
Feature Flags1 0098E3FD
Feature Flags2 BFEBFBFF

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU       Q 740  @ 1.73GHz               
Processor: Family: 6h, Model: 1E, Stepping: 5

Core Temperature: 61 °C, Raw Data: 88270000
88280000,88280000,882a0000,882a0000,88290000,88290000,88270000,88270000,
88270000,88270000,88270000,88270000,88270000,88270000,88270000,88270000,
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