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I found what causes this problem to occur and thought I would document it here.  I sometimes turn the monitors off at night but always leave the system running.  Last night a windows auto update caused a reboot and the left monitor became the primary one and the right monitor the secondary.  I noticed this when I turned the monitors back on and I assume this is because the system could not interrogate the pair as they were off and selected the default of left to right after the auto reboot.  I brought up your gadget and dismissed it and then restarted the system.  The reboot put the monitors back with right to left which is what I use and the gadget worked correctly.  I suspect that if I had not brought up the gadget when the monitors were reversed the gadget woudl have been stuck in an off-screen position after the second reboot.

It appears that the gadget popup occures in the window where it last popped up.  If I switch monitors one and two (eg: nvidia control panel) and then hold the cursor over the icon, the gadget pops up but is not visible.  I have to switch 2 and 1 back, wait for the gadget to popup and then move it back to the #2 monitor.  I can then switch 1 and 2 and the gadget pops up correctly.  This can be solved (at a minimum) by always popping up the gadget in the same window (monitor) as the main boinctask program.

BT is not the only program that has this problem, a dialog box in Nero also has this behavior as well as a Casio disk title printer popup.  If the popups were visible there would be no problem.  Unaccountably, it is NOT visible and <ALT><space><M>{cursor} cannot be used to move the hidden gadget, as the BT gadget does not have a (M)ove menu unlike nero or casio.

Best Regards!

Occassionally one of my systems gets the xml account file corrupted.  This is very rare.  When it happens there is no indication of any error from boinctasks.  Normally the message log (called event log in BM) shows the connection to the account manager (BAM! for me) was made.  When making a synchronization using Boinc Manager, a failure to connect pops up the username / password dialog box and a message in the event log shows "wrong password or username" or something to that effect.

When doing this synchronization from BoincTasks, no message shows up when the connection fails.  I only see a message if the connection succeeds and I have to view messages on each system to confirm the synchronization succeeded.

I can always go to boinc tasks to check the date and time of the last connection.  Obviously, if the last connect has been a long time, there is probably something wrong.  AFAICT there is no mechanism at BoincStats (BAM! account manager) to notify me if a system fails to synchronize after x amount of time.

I had been using V2.2.  When I upgraded my core 2 duo (E6400) to core 2 quad (Q6700) I did not realize that chip ran significently hotter and all cpu cores were way above the temp threshold.  I ran at least two weeks with the desktop systems CPUs being heavily throttled before I realized the problem as discussed here .

This same system also had a gtx280 that was being throttled unncessarily.  I returned an ATI Cypress 5850 for warranty and temporarily put a gtx280 in its place.  That card runs hotter then the Cypress and it was also throttled, but not anywhere as much as the CPUs were.

I only use throttle to report temperatures on all my desktop systems (BOINC farm) which are adaquately cooled except when they get dustbugs, and there is no need to actually throttle anything.

Suggestion:  Pop up a caution box when throttle detects a CPU or Graphics Accelerator change to alert the user after a hardware change.

best regards!

I just had to stop all work on the project primaboinca due to they way they are handleing their checkpointing or lack thereof.  I did not see any way to do this all at once for all of my systems.  Is there any way I could have highlighted all of computers running the project 'primaboinca" and do a "no more tasks" with one clck?

I use boincstats as a project manager.  They have a similar, but worse problem, when doing the same thing.

Team names having an "&"  that were created some time ago have improperly escaped the ampersand.  yoyo and cosmology are two that I know of.  When the team names appear in your display they are improperly displayed because the escape code was not properly constructed and only the team founder can fix it (?this is a guess?)  Anyway, this is what your display shows.  What is supposed to show is A&M University.



This is pretty low in priority, and, at least for me, I have deselected the team name column altogether. 

BT not always allowing BOINC to start.  Boinc gives error message "another instance of BOINC is running" and quits.  However, there is no other instance of BOINC running according to Windows 7 task manager.  If I stop BT using the "Exit" then BOINC can be started.  I am guessing that BOINC tries to use port 31416 and when it cant, it then assumes a copy of itself is running

To duplicate this problem BT must have " [X] Start BOINC at login" checked and be iconized.  It can sometimes take 3 tries before the failure shows up.  Once the failure show up, BOINC will never start unless BT exits.

This is what it looks like when the failure occures



The following image was taken immediately after entering the RETURN key on the command line.  Note that BOINC is running



This image was taken a few seconds later and shows the error message.  Note that BOINC is no longer in the task manager



This images was taken after terminating BT (note it is no longer in the task manager, and BOINC is running fine




The purpose of my stopping boinc was to allow CD and DVD burning to proceed at full speed on the few occassions when there is a heavy load on my system.  Maybe there is another way to pause all tasks so multiple DVD burns can run at full speed.

What is the purpose of the Task "Count" in the Projects Tab?

For example, Milkyway is listed in three places under the "Tasks Tab" as ..
Ready to report: 0.05c + 1ATI ..and..
Running: 0.05c + 1ATI ..and..
20[Tasks]: Ready to start

however, under the "Projects Tab" I see only
Tasks:  0/21

It should be 0/22 or better yet:  1/21
or even better to show all 4 possible states
(done/waiting/running/ready) : 1/0/1/20

The tasks counts are either  0/n or they are n/0 (or 0/0)  ie: the zero is either before or after the non-zero number and a tool tip for the Tasks column header to explain the difference would be nice.

Thanks for looking!

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The location:C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\eFMer\BoincTasks\crash
you can mail me at fred at efmer dot com
If possible one of a recent BT copy 0.78 or 0.79.
What BOINC version are you using?

OMG!!  There are 95 dump files there!!  from 85mb thru 142mb in size.

I will zip up one each from 79 and 78 (Both are from today).   Lemme know if the zip files arrives ok.  My ISP may not let it thru.
I am running boinc 6.10.65 and 6.10.66 on 3 windows and 5 ubuntu systems.

I am getting crashes sometimes minutes apart.  ie:  BT crashes and asks if I want to send the dump file to you.  I close it, start BT back up and about 5 - 50 minutes later it crashes again.  This also happened in .78 or maybe .76, as I may have skipped an update or two.  About a week ago I had maybe 50 BT icons in the task bar, all but 1 were dead.  That has not happened recently but I did turn off the silent restart.

Do you want the .dmp files e-mailed?  I can also ftp them to a web site I got and just email you the link.  Possibly you already have more .dmp files then you need.

The last crash occured just a few minutes ago and before I would write down the location of the dmp file the message disappeared off the screen.  There was time to make a note of the location but I didnt do it right away. 

I am currently debugging my own app under VS2008 and turned off BT temporarily to make my own debugging easier.   About a month ago, I also stopped  reporting temperature info back to BT from my Linux systems so that cannot be causing the problem.

Thanks - I was not aware that history had to be enabled.  Looks like it is working.  The rules log shows the rule I just added and the gadget has stuff in it :-)

I tried all you suggested but still no-go. I am posting links to the images as they take up too much space in the display box.  Rules were created using the add-rule mechanism you suggested.

(1) No computers are shown in the .63 gadget whereas the .62 did show 9 computers.

(2) I set the elapsed rule for 1 hour, 2 minutes, 3 seconds for task that were already all over 2 hours. Time was set to 15 seconds.  I also set temp rule for > 75c and 10 seconds and all cpu's were >= 77c.  Nothing happened, neither in the display nor the log.  The project was not suspended nor was there an entry in the rules log as shown here.   There was no entry in the rules log whether the x was shown in the checkbox or not.

(3) The state of the Show logging checkbox is being toggled off after the Rule editor is refreshed and dismissed.  To observe the problem do the following exactly:
- Add a rule and put an x in the Show logging [ ] then click on OK to dismiss the box
- put a check in the rule just created and click on edit
- observe that the checkbox is still checked as one would expect
- Click on OK to dismiss
- put a check in the rule just edited and click on edit again
- observe that the Show logging checkbox is no longer checked

(4) The state of the "BoincTasks Settings::Rules::Computer" checkbox is not preserved after the "Rule editor " dialog box is dismissed.  This is observed when running through step (3) above.

I cant make it work.  Went and uninstalled then re-installed .63 on  vista 64 system, dual monitor.  Set rules for < , > and for gpu and cpu. Nothing showed up in the rules log.  If I set the time for 10 seconds, something should have happened after 10 seconds.


I thought the [ x ] box (in the result creation/edit/delete box) was for enableing rules.  It is actually for selecting the one to edit (or delete).  Think a radio button would be more appropriate for that dialog box rather than a checkbox.   Ideally one should highlight the line item to edit and the [ x ] should show which rules are enabled or disabled.

Un-accountably, the rules log dialog box is always empty.
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Another problem

The gadget tool tip is always blank. In addition, when the tasking display under the gadget setup dialog box is updated,  the cursor is moved away from the text input box and is not restored. It takes several tries before a value can be entered in, for example, the time field.  I have to be either very quick to enter it in, or use the mouse to position the cursor before each digit is typed.

cant get rule to work, not sure what I am doing wrong.  collatz has been running 3 days (normally only 30 minutes), should have been suspended as the temp was under the rule limit.



turning loging on or off seems to show no debug activity other than throttle messages.  I expected to see the temp being measured or messages to the effect the rule was enabled, etc.

I downloaded .63 but same problem.  Also, the checkbox state is not being saved after a rule edit.

Is there a wildcard to use so I dont have to spell the project exactly?  What about the app - wildcard for the app.  Some projects the app changes as I recall.

I rebooted and re-ran that scan and it seem to be working very nicely.  I saw a red circle X but it disappeared before I could click on it.  On another occasion the red X appeared and I noticed that even a ping to that address failed.  Since it is the same address this is happening at, I suspect an intermittant connection problem does exist.

Please check your private messages as I sent you a suggestion.