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#226
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 25, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Tried v.72 with much anticipation.  Still only passes the NVidia temp from TThrottle to BoincTasks.  TThrottle v2.001, BT v.72, Win7_64, BOINC v6.10.58.
#227
Wish List / Re: Low priority feature request
August 20, 2010, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: fred on August 20, 2010, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: jjwhalen on August 20, 2010, 06:37:21 PM
Wasn't trying to rush you, it was low priority...I just noticed it apparently "fell in a crack" ;D  In your own good time, and enjoy the trip to France.  Which reminds me, I have to take a short trip to the Dog Park - retirement is sweet.
Retirement  ;D, I think I'm busier now than before.
Me too, and loving it :-)
#228
Wish List / Re: Use field
August 20, 2010, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: fred on August 20, 2010, 06:50:52 PM
Quote from: Beyond on August 20, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
For sure FreeHAL isn't in the well behaved category.  By having a designation such as "Running non-CPU-intensive" as in that old program, it was possible to get it off by itself and out of the way.  For example I sort the Tasks window on Status and secondarily on Time Left (10 machines with 54 running tasks at the moment).  There seems to be no way to get the FreeHAL tasks out of the way of the rest of the running tasks.  Sorting on Use just makes a mess.
If you have a suggestion to improve things and not too specific for FreeHAL let me know.

How about a Status  designation of something like "Running CPU NI" for any CPU program with a Use value of < 0.1C (FreeHAL is 0.025C)?
(Blank Use values and GPU tasks not included)  Would that work?
#229
Wish List / Re: Use field
August 20, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: fred on August 20, 2010, 05:30:48 PM
Quote from: Beyond on August 20, 2010, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: wicked on July 23, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Hello,

1) A while back I complained about numerous non-CPU intensive FreeHAL WUs taking too much space.

If you look at the old BoincView program it separates non CPU intensive tasks by specifying "Running non-CPU-intensive" under the status tab so that they can be lumped into a different area if the status tab is used as the primary sorting criterion.  There is also the ability to alter the sorting order of the various states in the status tab, a very useful feature.

The non CPU intensive setting is something from the old old days.
Well behaved programs should use the resources. Like 0.005 Cpu.

And FreeHAL isn't the one in the well behaving category.

For sure FreeHAL isn't in the well behaved category.  By having a designation such as "Running non-CPU-intensive" as in that old program, it was possible to get it off by itself and out of the way.  For example I sort the Tasks window on Status and secondarily on Time Left (10 machines with 54 running tasks at the moment).  There seems to be no way to get the FreeHAL tasks out of the way of the rest of the running tasks.  Sorting on Use just makes a mess.
#230
Wish List / Re: Display of time options
August 20, 2010, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: fred on August 20, 2010, 05:25:27 PM
Noted.
But one wants day the next hours, In seconds it's even shorter. ;D

For those having trouble converting hours to days in their head, maybe going back to school for a while would be a choice with lifelong benefits ;-)
Maybe a format choice?  A global choice?
#231
Wish List / Display of time options
August 20, 2010, 04:37:32 PM
Would it be possible to add a choice of formats for the Elapsed Time, Time Left & Checkpoint tabs? 

01d,11:32:11 (02d,21:55:21) takes up more real estate than
35:32:11 (69:55:21) and provides no more useful information.
It would be nice to get the column widths under control a bit.
#232
Wish List / Re: Use field
August 20, 2010, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: wicked on July 23, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Hello,

1) A while back I complained about numerous non-CPU intensive FreeHAL WUs taking too much space.

If you look at the old BoincView program it separates non CPU intensive tasks by specifying "Running non-CPU-intensive" under the status tab so that they can be lumped into a different area if the status tab is used as the primary sorting criterion.  There is also the ability to alter the sorting order of the various states in the status tab, a very useful feature.
#233
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 20, 2010, 03:49:31 PM
Quote from: fred on August 19, 2010, 07:57:54 AM

As of V 2.1 additional information is send to BoincTasks to correctly read the GPU temperatures on mixed systems. Should be implemented in the next BT V 0.72 version.

Any idea when BT v.72 might be out so we can test the mixed GPU functionality?

#234
Quote from: fred on August 19, 2010, 07:55:35 AM
The looping should be solved. in V 2.1
And the ATI GPU, should now read correctly.
v2.1 is installed on my 10 machines and seems to be working properly.  Just waiting for BT v.72 to test the temp reporting on the mixed GPU box.
#235
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 18, 2010, 07:57:33 PM
Here's another clue to the problem:

http://www.efmer.eu/forum_tt/index.php?topic=509.msg2235#msg2235

Just tried v2.001 on another machine with 2 ATI cards.  Both GPUs read 0C.  Copied the v1.91 exe over v2.001 and the temps read correctly.  In this case the correct temps are also passed to BoincTasks.
#236
Quote from: fred on August 18, 2010, 05:00:50 PM
Quote from: Beyond on August 18, 2010, 04:54:43 PM
Same thing happens on my Brisbane X2.  Processor checking loops for hours and never finishes.  V2.00, Win7-64.
Can you give me this part of the log tab.

Core Temperature: 79 °C, Raw Data: 88150000
88130000,88130000,88130000,88130000,88130000,88130000,88150000,88150000,
88140000,88140000,88140000,88140000,88140000,88140000,88140000,88140000,
0123456777777777

I tried v2.0 again and the processor check finally completed after about 2 hours.  Unfortunately under v2.0 the ATI HD 4770 GPU read a temp of 0C.  It worked correctly with all previous versions.  I copied in the v2.001 exe and it still read 0C.  Then copied in the v1.91 exe and it now reads correctly (currently 52.7C).
#237
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 18, 2010, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: fred on August 18, 2010, 07:24:45 PM
Quote from: Beyond on August 18, 2010, 06:19:44 PM
V2.001 debug log.  For this log I simply replaced the v1.91 exe with the v2.001 exe.  Interestingly the temp window with the v2.001 exe now showed incorrectly the same temp for both cards.  Copied the v1.91 exe back in and the temps in the temp window reported correctly again.  Still not being passed correctly to BoincTasks though:
What is in the  Use column for the NVIDIA and ATI?

NVIDIA is probably something like this: 0.04C + 1NV
Is there a device number like (d0) in it?

No device number:
0.02C + 1ATI
0.01C + 1NV

The machines with 2 ATI cards and the one with 2 NV cards all have the (d0) and (d1) device numbers.  The machine with mixed cards does not.

#238
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 18, 2010, 06:19:44 PM
V2.001 debug log.  For this log I simply replaced the v1.91 exe with the v2.001 exe.  Interestingly the temp window with the v2.001 exe now showed incorrectly the same temp for both cards.  Copied the v1.91 exe back in and the temps in the temp window reported correctly again.  Still not being passed correctly to BoincTasks though:

18 August 2010 - 13:05:03 Driver installed properly. Driver Version: 2.0

Program version: 2.00 64Bit
Microsoft  (build 7600)

Language: User: 1033 ENU ,System: 1033 ENU

nvidia: found 1 logical devices
nvidia: found 1 physical devices
nvidia: Temperature 63 °C, max Temperature 127 °C

nvidia: GeForce GTX 460
Amd/Ati: found 1 devices
Amd/Ati: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series P (0-0)
18 August 2010 - 13:05:03 AdapterInfo: 0-0, Index: 0, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 58

Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Vendor: AMD
HighestIntegerValue: 00000005 - Processor Signature: 00100F52
Misc. info: 01040800
Feature Flags1 00802009
Feature Flags2 178BFBFF

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor                            
Processor: Family: 10h, Model: 5, Stepping: 2

Core Temperature: 42 °C, Raw Data: 2A8C1880
2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,
2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,2a8c1880,
0123333333333333
This Processor has 4 cores and  1 temperature sensors.

#239
Beta testing problems / Re: Mixed NVidia and ATI GPUs
August 18, 2010, 06:13:32 PM
Debug log for v1.91:

18 August 2010 - 12:57:50 Driver installed properly. Driver Version: 2.0

Program version: 1.91 64Bit
Microsoft  (build 7600)

Language: User: 1033 ENU ,System: 1033 ENU

nvidia: found 1 logical devices
nvidia: found 1 physical devices
nvidia: Temperature 63 °C, max Temperature 127 °C

nvidia: GeForce GTX 460
Amd/Ati: found 1 devices
Amd/Ati: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series P (0-0)
18 August 2010 - 12:57:50 AdapterInfo: 0-0, Index: 0, ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Pos: 0, Temperature: 58

Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
Vendor: AMD
HighestIntegerValue: 00000005 - Processor Signature: 00100F52
Misc. info: 01040800
Feature Flags1 00802009
Feature Flags2 178BFBFF

Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor                            
Processor: Family: 10h, Model: 5, Stepping: 2

Core Temperature: 43 °C, Raw Data: 2B8C1880
2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,
2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,2b8c1880,
0123333333333333
This Processor has 4 cores and  1 temperature sensors.

#240

Core Temperature: 20 °C, Raw Data: 6045E03A
6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,
6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,6045e03a,
0111111111111111